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Democracy destroyed America

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Posted By: Big Bopper, 11/18/2025 11:00:23 AM

“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule” -Thomas Jefferson The other Founders were similarly scornful of pure democracies. John Adams proclaimed: “Democracy… while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. James Madison said: “Pure democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention.” Alexander Hamilton warned: “Pure democracy is as much a fallacy as the idea of eternal vows and permanent alliances.” Ah, you might say, but what about the democracy of ancient Athens? I’m glad you brought that up. Athens was indeed a pure democracy in the sense that the people voted directly on matters of governance. But not all the people.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: sw penn 11/18/2025 11:19:06 AM (No. 2031385)
"Rome expanded its empire to embrace about 60 million people – about a third of the population of the entire ancient world – and lasted nearly a thousand years." Maybe, maybe not. There is a line of thought that runs: Roman Empire became Holy Roman Empire became "The West" So, while the Roman Empire may have technically stopped collecting taxes, it's children certainly still do.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: crashnburn 11/18/2025 11:28:09 AM (No. 2031388)
The DemoRoids have an unquencable thirst for power. We all know power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. We’ve seen the corruption in the cities and states where they have nearly absolute power.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: BarryNo 11/18/2025 11:56:29 AM (No. 2031404)
The Democracy of the Democrats, isn't Democracy. They cheat - pick your election, over the past century. They appoint - either directly as with Kamal Harris, who never won a primary, or indirectly, like Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders, where the vote held by the "special people" outweigh the votes of the public. They are not above removing a candidate by violence - JFK and his brother Bobby comes to mind. If you don't agree with their goals, you are possibly in mortal danger. And THAT'S not a Democracy.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Hazymac 11/18/2025 12:00:21 PM (No. 2031407)
Excellent essay by Beaton. All should read, and disseminate it. Pure democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for supper tonight.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: red1066 11/18/2025 12:30:19 PM (No. 2031413)
The founding fathers didn't think much of pure democracies, which is why they advocated for a representative republic.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 11/18/2025 1:09:35 PM (No. 2031428)
Letting people who TAKE from the state have a vote is a guaranteed disaster. If you are on SNAP, or WIC. or whatever welfare....you should NOT be permitted to vote.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: bpl40 11/18/2025 3:29:00 PM (No. 2031452)
I for one have always been of the opinion that only those who pay a certain amount in taxes should be eligible to vote. Your April 15 returns gets you the ballot in November. The amount could be determined by law.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: J. Arthur Brown 11/18/2025 3:32:34 PM (No. 2031455)
There's nothing wrong with our constitutional republic that assuring that our elections are decided only by actual, living United States citizens won't go a long way toward correcting.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Manxsom Foe 11/18/2025 3:42:34 PM (No. 2031459)
A long time ago Alexis deToqueville warned us that the country would be ruined if a majority of the people figured put how to vote money from the minority to themselves. That is why the founders gave us a republic. Democracy is how we got Jim Crow laws and "Segregation Forever" governors because a majority wanted them. Democracy also got us Sanctuary Cities. Enough people decided to nullify federal law that the immigration laws were not enforced. It made me wonder why anyone would bother to run for congress if future Executive Branch air heads could ignore their work. Once again: We are not a Democracy but are a Republic. The Constitution limits the power of government. It does not list what services government should supply. Government should guarantee the blessings of liberty to us and to our posterity.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Highlander 11/19/2025 9:06:15 AM (No. 2031643)
About that Athenian democracy: I saw a documentary on TV how their democracy was utilized to increase their military might, which was the main objective. The upper crust called all the shots.
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