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Powerful new DOGE rule to be
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of stay-at-home bureaucrats

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Posted By: Imright, 12/5/2024 3:11:52 PM

A Republican unveiled a new bill that will give Donald Trump's DOGE agency the tools and clear direction to hit the ground running on day one of the next administration. Trump tapped Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy to 'dismantle' the $6.5 trillion bloated U.S. bureaucracy by heading the newly created Department of Government Efficiency. They plan to cut wasteful regulations and spending by specifically targeting the number of federal government employees. Top Republican Joni Ernst, R-Iowa, is leading DOGE's aggressive plans on a new 'DOGE Caucus' being set up in the Senate. On the House side, Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., was tapped for a powerful job assisting DOGE

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Reply 1 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 12/5/2024 4:18:15 PM (No. 1848933)
Do it, please. Do it now.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: sunnyday 12/5/2024 4:26:14 PM (No. 1848939)
Ernst must go.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Starboard_side 12/5/2024 4:27:28 PM (No. 1848940)
Imagine that, only 6% of Federal employees are reporting in-person on a full-time basis. I've heard if you remove the janitors and maintenance staff, it drops to 1%. They need strict controls on them for log-in times, amount of work done while logged in, etc... Wonder how many are defrauding the government, essentially stealing wages and benefits without working or using their allotted PTO. I'll bet many haven't actually worked a full week in years with some having second jobs.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: tootall 12/5/2024 5:29:17 PM (No. 1848981)
I agree with #2. Ernst has made her choice. After reading about her recently, she is not a Republican and has no desire to be part of the solution. She is past being redeemed as well
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Reply 5 - Posted by: DVC 12/5/2024 6:04:24 PM (No. 1848992)
Using the Supreme Court ruling in EPA vs West Virginia, much of the regulations passed are illegal. So, erase those regulations and slice off half or 3/4 of the regulators now that we know that they can't actually regulate any more. And SCOTUS removing the Chevron deference won't actually undo anything but it opens the door for thousands of lawsuits against EPA and other agencies to remove orders that were unreasonable, but "Chevron" gave deference to bureaucrats in the past. No more.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: chumley 12/5/2024 6:40:03 PM (No. 1849011)
Work from home has been a scam all along. The real work is being done by the dopes like me who had to go in. There was nobody in supply, administration or HR. Anything I needed I had to fill out an on-line form for and wait days or weeks, including simple questions that could have been answered in two seconds. Like so many other government experiments, it has failed. So they'll fight to the death to keep it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 12/5/2024 6:58:49 PM (No. 1849018)
I guess my point in #5 wasn't direct enough. If you can erase 1/2 or 3/4 of a bureaucracy, you can get rid of all those who 'work' at home. Just lay them off.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: mifla 12/6/2024 5:31:15 AM (No. 1849158)
We are paying for empty buildings to just be there.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: ARKfamily 12/6/2024 6:05:26 AM (No. 1849178)
#6, not so fast. I think it has more to do with personal integrity. I know of several situations where people are working more productively and efficiently at home. Of course, there are the situations where people are taking advantage of not doing any work from home and skirting the system so to speak. I definitely would not call working from home a scam. Some of these people were hired during the pandemic and told to work from home. . .
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Reply 10 - Posted by: billa57 12/6/2024 7:22:08 AM (No. 1849239)
Attrition starter for sure. Thats a good thing. By the nature of government, the more they waist money, the more they get next year. If they try and save money they will be punished the next year with a smaller budget. Worked for government for 23 years and have seen it firsthand.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Rather Read 12/6/2024 7:40:26 AM (No. 1849263)
I work in a library. When covid hit, we closed much against my wishes. We stayed open to pull books for students and answer questions from e-mail or zoom. I ended up working 3 days of the week in person and was grateful to be able to get out of the house. My grandchildren like many did remote learning and it has affected them to a degree. Humans are social creatures, we need interaction.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: felixcat 12/6/2024 7:48:46 AM (No. 1849267)
Even when on mandated full time telework, I still went into the office to pick up the faxes, mail, deliveries, etc. android my actual work - no one was around and got a lot accomplished. If you're pushing papers like I do and schlepping into the office with all its distractions, telework is more efficient especially when I have to do deal wit the public and they're calling or emailing me from Alaska and I am on east coast time. And we all know that a poor performing employee is a poor performing employee in the office or at home.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 12/6/2024 8:21:50 AM (No. 1849297)
Supervision is a big part of making most workers productive....especially government workers who need not demonstrate their value to the profit of a company.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: zippyda1 12/6/2024 10:49:06 AM (No. 1849448)
I agree with #9. I'm an IT gov't contractor that works mostly from home. I'm sure there are people that take advantage of working from home but the majority folks I work with don't. My team works hard and is more productive from home than in the office. I find working from home has less distractions, allows better focus and better team communication. An occupied office does not equate to high productivity. I hope they find a better measuring stick than counting how many office seats are occupied.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 12/6/2024 12:08:15 PM (No. 1849498)
#9 Fox News is reporting that 99% of govt. workers are "working" at home. That means only 1% are going to the office. That spells inefficiency. Besides govt. buildings are standing empty and we're paying millions of dollars in rent, our taxpayer dollars. BTW I saw a photo of a man in a bubble bath with his computer, on govt. time, supposedly working. ha! That's a scam. Don't tell me that people working at home are more efficient than those working at an office. That spells the temptation to goof off.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: MickTurn 12/6/2024 3:39:18 PM (No. 1849627)
I used to work in Civil Service for the Air Force. I can tell everyone with certainty there were at least 40% of my co workers that didn't have a real job. They just attended meetings and gave their opinions, usually uninformed, about everything. I called them PMA's. Professional Meeting Attendees! The worst thing was while I was basically working 3-5 jobs depending on the situation, I had lots of the PMA's trying to glom on to my work as if I needed help. I was kind but ran them off by asking them lots of questions so they realized they had little or NO knowledge to work in my area of expertise. I also had contractors to manage. Many times their answer to a problem was to claim that work was out of scope of their contract...at which point I would refer them to page/paragraph where it was very clear the items were Definitely IN SCOPE and they HAD to do the work. I had one contractor lead argue with me about it. I just told him, are you asking me to terminate your contract because you won't do the work that is clearly within scope of YOUR CONTRACT? Usually they would back off real quick. I would then tell them, because you question the contract's scope I will be watching the work products very carefully to assure they are not just pencil whipped! They hated me for that, but Once I laid down the law they always fell into line as they did not want their upper management to get a call from me with Problems!
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Foghorn 12/6/2024 4:40:32 PM (No. 1849671)
This is necessary to get 90% of the work force back in the proper office. Communications with each other and informing the supervisors suffer when employees work from home. This also hurts communications with the citizens. If a person has to call the offices back they frequently get another employee that is not informed about the problem. The call cannot be transferred to the first employee that is aware of the problem. Employees frequently must have a quick response to a request and they cannot do that, particulary in the supply chain for emergency response to the military for parts for ships or aircraft.
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