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UPDATED: What the FBI Isn't Saying About
Its Shooting of a Utah Trump Supporter
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Posted By: Mercedes44, 8/13/2023 10:01:10 AM

On Thursday, NBC News reported that ” a senior law enforcement official” told the outlet that Robertson was armed when FBI agents confronted him at his home….Authorities said he pointed his weapon at agents and did not respond to their commands. The report added that the senior official told NBC News “the investigation into the fatal shooting will determine through forensics whether Robertson fired his weapon.”As RedState reported, the FBI shot and killed a Utah-based Trump supporter on Wednesday, prompting many to question exactly what happened during the incident.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Italiano 8/13/2023 10:09:20 AM (No. 1533483)
Probably that he posed as much of a threat as Santa Claus.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Paintman 8/13/2023 10:20:03 AM (No. 1533487)
Anything the FBI self reports immediately goes in my bs file. They should have to prove they didn't shoot him down in cold blood, given their track record.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Right Time 8/13/2023 10:39:04 AM (No. 1533497)
I don't recall the FBI SWAT raid on Kathy Griffin, or Alec Baldwin, or Robert DeNiro---all of whom made death threats against President Trump. Those FBI agents who SWAT MAGA supporters have a home and family. Maybe it is time to yank them and theirs out of bed at gunpoint at 4 AM?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Heil Liberals 8/13/2023 10:41:32 AM (No. 1533501)
Ruby Ridge. Nuff said. Medals will be presented; heroics will be declared; and an old man will still be dead. Get the message yet?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Twinkle93 8/13/2023 10:43:15 AM (No. 1533505)
The Utah state police should be the investigating agency. This is BS to have the FBI / DOfJ investigate themselves. I laugh at the TV ad for the FBI program that says that what the FBI does best is a man hunt. No it isn't. The "best" thing the FBI does is lie. Especially while under oath.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 8/13/2023 10:45:50 AM (No. 1533507)
I won’t ever cooperate with the FBI. I don’t care how many Stasi, KGB, Gestapo goon squads come out of the woodwork.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Corndoggies 8/13/2023 11:15:37 AM (No. 1533530)
They did the same thing with David Koresh who went running every day off compound. Why peacefully arrest someone and let all the equipment go to waste?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: mc squared 8/13/2023 11:22:06 AM (No. 1533533)
Has anyone seen the threats, or who made the postings? Maybe the deceased knew Ray Epps? The only thing sure is the FBI is lying.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: less is more 8/13/2023 11:26:01 AM (No. 1533534)
The Capitol Police killed two unarmed women on Jan 6 and now the FBI kills an unarmed man. No justice for those killed because we allow it to happen. Where are our spineless representatives in DC?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: philsner 8/13/2023 12:19:33 PM (No. 1533585)
I have been "concerned" for a number of years.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: hershey 8/13/2023 12:27:04 PM (No. 1533601)
Waco redux??
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Birddog 8/13/2023 12:28:03 PM (No. 1533602) was the "potential Threat" they were really worried about, setting up a perimeter watch for the few hours that Biden was in the region would have been sufficient, they already had one in place for everywhere Biden was going to travel, everywhere he would exit the bulletproof, bomb proof, "Beast"...a couple of more guys or even cameras around this old guys house would have sufficed. This was earned Media/PR/Campaign action not "Law Enforcement", and they were willing to KILL to get it on the News.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: bighambone 8/13/2023 12:29:12 PM (No. 1533604)
I am not a Biden fan, but you have to figure that Robertson made himself a target when he apparently threatened to do harm to the President of the USA. You just can’t do that and then go on your merry way.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Bur Oak 8/13/2023 12:38:08 PM (No. 1533615)
I'm way passed giving the FBI (Federal Bureau of Intimidation) the benefit of the doubt about anything.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Words have Meaning 8/13/2023 12:51:36 PM (No. 1533627)
The FBI has thoroughly investigated themselves and found they did nothing wrong. I expect the same conclusions to be found by special prosecutor, David Weiss, investigating the Biden Crime Family, Hunter and Joe. Also it could be years before the prosecutor will be able to comment at all. (since it is an ongoing investigation.)
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Reply 16 - Posted by: DVC 8/13/2023 1:10:42 PM (No. 1533652)
Likely cold blooded murder. They are a very dangrous crew, this "federal agents".
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Strike3 8/13/2023 1:50:49 PM (No. 1533688)
There is special combat training going on in the FBI that puffs up their already-inflated egos to make them think some of them are the equivalent of Special Forces troops. That's why they love the early morning raids that killed this man and put scuba divers in the water to harass a 70-something ex-president over the mishandling of some paperwork. There is a time and place for this behavior and it is not to persecute citizens who have not done anything wrong. In case you are raided by the FBI in this manner you will probably be shot so you might as well make it worth your while.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Rather Read 8/13/2023 1:55:24 PM (No. 1533692)
He was old, obese and a loud mouth. I don't think he was a very pleasant man, but was about as harmless as a turtle. Heads should roll at the FBI for this.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 8/13/2023 3:18:30 PM (No. 1533734)
Glenn Beck was talking about this on the radio and was very upset. He had on an ex-FBI agent who made excuses for the Fbie's behavior, but this action is inexcusable. This took place in the Ruby Ridge area...Northern Idaho isn't that far away where the FBI killed/murdered a family and their dog for no good reason other than a trumped up firearms charge later dismissed. It seems the FBI/ATF are always looking for ways to crack down on American citizens' 2nd Amendment rights. And it always leads to violence on the part of the government. We remember Waco, Texas and the FBI's heinous setting the compound on fire with children inside. Innocent children and adults died that day. We will never forget what Janet Reno, the FBI and others did. America, don't you forget what they've, FBI, the govt., have done to innocent citizens.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: JimBob 8/13/2023 3:37:10 PM (No. 1533742)
I'm with #4. Reading this, memories of Ruby Ridge popped into my head.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 8/13/2023 5:03:39 PM (No. 1533772)
Re #13, how about a number of celebrities who have said, "I hate Trump enough to shoot him" or similar words. Many have said it publicly....and just ignored.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Fat Elvis 8/13/2023 5:14:20 PM (No. 1533774)
The pre dawn "dynamic entry" has been a tactic of federal law enforcement, dating back to Waco and beyond. The feds know that the target will likely be groggy, disoriented. We already know that the victime was armed. His online posts were specific and illegal. But there are ways to approach a suspect who is going to be arrested. The FBI are supposed to be masters of criminal profiling and had this man under surveillance for some time prior to the raide. The family even posted a photo of Robertson with the rest of the family, presumably outside of his home. Robertson was pictured, obviously overweight and leaning against a wooden railing of what looks like a wheelchai ramp leading up to his home. The man had mobility issues, and could not have been much of a threat to law enforcement. I don't believe this man had to die. I do believe the FBI wanted to send a message--Don't even think about resisting the government. And if this is what the FBI has become, then we are all in great peril.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: judy 8/13/2023 5:57:53 PM (No. 1533786)
Schumer & Obama threatened the Supreme Court …nothing was done…
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Reply 24 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 8/13/2023 7:34:58 PM (No. 1533851)
Since when does the FBI investigate threats against the president?
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Paperpuncher 8/14/2023 7:57:51 AM (No. 1534023)
Correct 24. That job belongs to Secret Service.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Ruhn 8/14/2023 8:55:43 AM (No. 1534058)
The FBI needs to be shut down. There's nothing in the Constitution about a federal police force. The J. Edgar Hoover building needs to be razed to the ground and that ground seeded with salt. Since that's not going to happen anytime soon, perhaps knee-cap it. Governors can kick out FBI field offices in their states and their state law enforcement can refuse to cooperate with them. Exercise some 10th Amendment rights.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: HotPatty 8/14/2023 9:59:17 AM (No. 1534113)
From all the present facts, this is just like Ruby Ridge. Gun happy DOJ /Biden operators.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Zigrid 8/14/2023 10:15:43 AM (No. 1534125)
Anything the FBI says is suspect...I don't believe this accounting of the bit....they have made their one trusts them...
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Reply 29 - Posted by: cny 8/14/2023 10:37:09 AM (No. 1534134)
So, I guess Biden's advice to 'shoot them in the leg' doesn't apply in this situation. Dangerous times.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: sherlock1 8/14/2023 10:56:59 AM (No. 1534147)
Schumer & Obama threatened the Supreme Court …nothing was done… That's (D)ifferent.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Kafka2 8/14/2023 10:57:39 AM (No. 1534148)
Other reports on this suspect say that the FBI had been monitoring him for months. This begs the quest, why stage a 4 am commando raid when they could have picked him up in the daytime? Breaking in “home invasion” style is guaranteed to provoke a defensive reaction. The FBI seems to have developed a taste for showy commando raids, instead of handling arrests in a peaceful manner.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: donnaclaire 8/14/2023 11:49:17 AM (No. 1534191)
We’ve seen recently just how corrupt and controlled (by prominent Democrat politicians) today’s federal LE agencies are. Is it any wonder that whatever they do now - especially something of a volatile nature - will and should be questioned? Instead of existing for the benefit of America’s citizens, it appears they want us to be afraid of them. That is a chilling turn.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Rumblehog 8/14/2023 12:48:10 PM (No. 1534250)
Sad to say, we can never trust the FB-Lie in these tumultuous times. I'm convinced that the FB-Lie has a "Special Projects Group" in DC who works solely with Demonrat DNC strategists, acting as their "muscle" or "hitmen," depending on the circumstance. I'm also leery of the FBI superseding State Police at every opportunity, or immediately injecting themselves into every major local event. There's nothing Demonrats would like more than immediate enforcement of a Federal Police Force, absorbing all State and Local Forces into their ranks for "indoctrination" and "evaluation."
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Samsquanch 8/14/2023 1:26:10 PM (No. 1534277)
They're "arrest squads" don't wear body cams.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: KatieJo 8/14/2023 1:32:57 PM (No. 1534285)
You may also recall that FBI and Oregon State Troopers executed Lavoy Finicum, who was on his way to the Sheriff's office in the next county. Apparently this man, who never had so much as a speeding ticket in his life, posed so much of a threat--during his drive to the sheriff's office--that he had to be executed. I don't believe Lavoy pulled a gun, but I know he would have not had any cause to if they had just left him along to travel to the SHERIFF's office in the next county. I never understood why the public didn't care about this...MSM lies I guess, like always. I am similarly outraged over the murder of Mr. Robertson. Since when do these "authorities" have the power to function as judge, jury, and executioner for a verbal "threat" that nobody believes he would have acted on?? These things should terrify us all. Ruby Ridge, Waco, LaVoy, Craig Robertson, J6...there are never any consequences for government murder of innocent people, so the murders will continue.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: faceincrowd 8/14/2023 1:49:31 PM (No. 1534299)
They killed him in cold blood. But they are not going to admit that out loud. They know we are thinking it.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: your other brother 8/14/2023 3:58:28 PM (No. 1534364)
Who doesn’t grab a gun when someone kicks their door in at 6AM? The raid was intended to intimidate…us not the victim. Him they intended to kill. For now the murders, J6 incarcerations, and kangaroo courts are working. People are afraid and after covid they have been habituated to giving up their rights as free men. But what God gives mere mortals cannot take away.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: SouthernYankee 8/14/2023 5:22:42 PM (No. 1534411)
Unfortunately every federal bureau of intimidation body cam malfunctioned. The perp at 65 years of age with a cane tried to stand to greet the agents but his Hurricane was mistaken for a fully automatic 50 caliber machine gun and after 30 warning shot that unfortunately entered his body he succumbed even after heroic efforts of the Stasi to help.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: mean Gene 8/14/2023 5:24:51 PM (No. 1534412)
Sources local to Provo, UT, report that the victim was a devout Mormon and a regular church goer. Why couldn't they simply make an arrest in broad daylight in the church parking lot? I am still waiting for official statements from the LDS church.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: ChattyCatsSusan 8/14/2023 8:32:58 PM (No. 1534495)
Given he could barely stand unassisted, I still doubt he walked and fired under his own steam. Now if he was in his chair, that would be a different story. But I still would not buy what the FBI is trying to sell. I think they jumped the gun, probably because the old man didn't immediately come to the door for them. He couldn't.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: WimeTarmerFable 8/14/2023 9:06:58 PM (No. 1534532)
The Stasi was “making an example” of Craig Robinson. Oppose the #JihadJunta? “We will bury you.”
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New York — CNN is heading to the Max streaming platform. The network’s parent company, Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD), announced Thursday that it will incorporate live news into its super-streamer Max service, allowing subscribers access to 24/7 programming from the global news brand. The service, which launches a little more than a year after Warner Bros. Discovery executives shuttered the previous standalone CNN+ service, will be called CNN Max and launch with a “beta” label on September 27 in the United States before being rolled out more broadly following feedback received during the nascent stage.
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