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The Supreme Court Is At The Heart Of America’s
Racial Division

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Posted By: DW626, 1/29/2023 11:21:17 AM

If you are trying to make sense of how our nation has become so toxic, a good starting point is the Supreme Court’s 1964 decision in New York Times v. Sullivan. That case radically altered existing law so that, for the first time in our history, it was impossible for any “public figure” to bring a successful defamation suit. There can be no better example of the horrid effect of that decision than a recent race-based defamation against Governor Ron DeSantis. Recently, the DeSantis administration sent a letter to the College Board informing it that the State of Florida would not allow a proposed AP African-American Studies curriculum

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Venturer 1/29/2023 12:53:14 PM (No. 1390069)
White people and Christians, and straight people are under attack. That's a fact. If you think the so-called "Good Ole Boy" system was bad in the past wait until you get a bellyful of the new "Good Ole Boy system". The "WOKE" system. Where you are required to be Left, black, LGBTQ or Trans . Wake the hell up . Can't you see it.? There is training for it in our colleges, in our schools, look at Joe Biden and his Administration. Look at it in the DNC, watch your television, with NBC Joy Reid, The View, watch the TV commercials the News programs, the changing of the names of products, the changing of verbiage being used. The invasion of our country by the populations of the third world. The attacks on the 2nd. Amendment. The "WOKE" minions are on the move. If the WOKE win ,Americans who stand by watching this happen lose.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 1/29/2023 1:01:04 PM (No. 1390072)
Forget New York Times V. Sullivan... Without it, all that would happen is that the lawyers for 'both sides' would get get richer. What we really need to bring back is: dueling.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: davew 1/29/2023 1:06:37 PM (No. 1390074)
The Court's Sullivan decision was informed by the general principle in law that public officials have a privileged position in society by virtue of their celebrity or statutory power status. Heckling from "the peanut gallery" is an expected liability for people that are in the public eye. It is not the Court's recognition of this fact that causes the problem to civil government. It is the greatly expanded power of biased media organizations in the age of internet mass communications to disseminate and amplify the influence of stupid trolls and hecklers far beyond the ignorant utterances they spew. With free speech comes the responsibility of fair-minded citizens to educate and inform themselves on the issues and laws that they must consider and consent to. There is no protection in tort law for this basic civil virtue which must be learned from the culture by each generation. Look to the schools rather than the courts for the solution to our divisions.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: David Key 1/29/2023 2:59:08 PM (No. 1390122)
I moved away from Florida about forty five years ago. I went thru Elementary, Jr. High, and Sr. High school in Florida. Florida was not known at that time for spending a lot of money on education. We had basic and advanced lever classes the advance were for those who would probably go on to college. I took a few but never went to college until I was in my fifties. 32wq1
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Reply 5 - Posted by: David Key 1/29/2023 3:04:25 PM (No. 1390124)
Sorry... wife had a problem so I accidently hit enter. My point, Was that Florida has never been known for its Education excellence. The Gov. said they included Black History in their basic history classes. If so I would say they wouldn't need a separate Black History college prep class. If what the Gov. said was true about the canceled class, then it sounded more like propaganda than education. Since I've not looked at a High School American history nor have I read up on the suggested advanced Black Studies course I leave it at that.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Rinktum 1/30/2023 6:16:46 AM (No. 1390311)
We’ve gone too far down this road to pull back. It’s just not possible. To stop the race baiting and defamation would require a reasonable opposition and we have now in this country an opposition that is drunk on its own power and incapable of even listening to an opposing opinion. They could not process the truth because the only thing that exists for the is their truth. They will scream and go berserk if they are not permitted to viciously defame any opposition. To even try would be met with cries of racism. When raw hatred is all you have to use as an argument, you will not give it up.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: SkeezerMcGee 1/30/2023 7:05:20 AM (No. 1390333)
As justice Thomas has asserted, New York Times v. Sullivan needs to be tweaked. But Sullivan is not the problem. The problem is cowardly Republicans who do not and will not respond with forceful, persuasive assertions to counter Democrats' ad hominem attacks because they fear they will be tagged as being RACIST! This stupidity is infuriating. Only strong Republicans like Donald Trump, Ron De Santis, Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, Mike Lee, John Kennedy and similar Republicans have the wisdom and backbone to fight back with force and conviction. It's Republicans like Mitch Mcconnell and Lindsey Graham who are killing the Republican Party,
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Strike3 1/30/2023 9:41:06 AM (No. 1390439)
No, but they are the epitome of diversity and inclusion because of people like Al Sharpton, Don Lemon, Henry Louis Gates, Danny Glover, Maxine Waters, Barack Obama and all of their kin who blame the many problems of blacks on Whitey. Successful black people like Dr. Thomas Sowell and Dr. Ben Carson did not blame anybody, they studied hard and worked hard to become what they are.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: felixcat 1/30/2023 10:27:35 AM (No. 1390475)
As a second generation born American, I greatly resent that people who have been in this country for centuries are treated as if they just got off the board. You want African American shorty - okay, which tribe's history do you want to teach? Cause if your ancestors came here as slaves, oops, enslaved, then you're from one of the west coast tribes. Better yet, would the same race baiters be all in on teaching German-American history or Swedish-American history. Brazil with the most number of slaves from Africa and with the largest number of slaves descendants than anywhere ever in the US doesn't give a hoot about teaching this garbage.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Zigrid 1/30/2023 10:55:02 AM (No. 1390496)
I'm very discouraged with the supremes...not the conservatives...but the woke lefties...thank God Garland never made it to the Supreme Court ...and while I'm at it...WHO leaked the information about the roe/wade decision...WE never got an answer to that...roberts is not our friend when it comes to constitutional law...
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Reply 11 - Posted by: danu 1/30/2023 12:17:07 PM (No. 1390564)
marx insisted that any takeover begin w/ ''the robes''. SCROTUS is the beginning.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Tomas57 1/30/2023 12:53:37 PM (No. 1390595)
I strongly disagree. You can lay the source of the breakdown of race relations at Obama’s feet. He took advantage of every occurrence that involved a black man to promote racial disharmony. “Of I had a son he would look like Trenton Martin.” “The police acted stupidly.” “America has racism in its DNA.” And let’s not forget that fact that he and his wife sat in the congregation of one of the most racist pastors in America.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Lawsy0 1/30/2023 2:21:51 PM (No. 1390652)
I wish I knew if Wolf Howling had human parents, or just ran with the pack? I don't mean the NCSC, either. Should have called himself Samuel Clemens! /s
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