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Who Can Fathom The Eternal Optimism Of
EV Enthusiasts?

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Posted By: RockyTCB, 8/12/2026 9:23:43 AM

Just weeks after announcing that it will lose up to $4.5 billion this year making electric cars, Ford unveiled its next plug-in attempt: the Ford Fathom truck. So it goes with EVs. No matter how loudly consumers say they don’t want them, those “in the know” keep telling us that the future is electric and that success is just around the corner. Last month, for example, the mainstream press was giddy over a slight rebound in EV sales in the second quarter compared with the first. As Business Insider put it, “The U.S. EV market comes back from the dead. Thank high gas prices.”

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Reply 1 - Posted by: planetgeo 8/12/2026 10:00:00 AM (No. 2137589)
The objective reality is that EVs are great as an option (and in certain environments: urban, moderate climate, short distances), and they're fantastic as hybrids. The hatred for them arose because of the really ignorant mandates to both the industry and consumers by the ideological Democrats. I have a hybrid and it's the best car I've ever had. Over 30 miles per gallon, range over 600 miles, regular gas, lightning quick when needed. Just let the market and the automotive industry find the sweet spot for how to design these things. And give us a choice. Period.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: wilarrbie 8/12/2026 10:14:08 AM (No. 2137599)
I'll consider an EV when they can fly.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: dgw1949 8/12/2026 10:23:17 AM (No. 2137612)
#2, you are brave.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: wilarrbie 8/12/2026 10:32:17 AM (No. 2137623)
Thinking it won't happen in my remaining lifetime!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: bpl40 8/12/2026 10:40:01 AM (No. 2137630)
Lithium based technology is frankly not viable in the long run and large numbers. Gasoline combustion produces forty times more energy than a single charge of a similar volume lithium cell. If you increase the energy concentration the lithium cell becomes a deadly safety hazard. Lugging around a 1500 lb deadweight makes things worse. The physics will not permit it. If all gasoline vehicles are replaced by current EVs the power grid will have to triple (which IMO is a deliberate understatement). Maybe fifty to a hundred years from now.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: mc squared 8/12/2026 10:46:25 AM (No. 2137634)
If EVs were as popular as the press says, why is the government subsidizing them (with our tax money) When certain models of gas cars are in demand, dealers tack on a surcharge!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: chagrined 8/12/2026 10:49:15 AM (No. 2137637)
There's nothing wrong with the combustion engine. Just because a bunch of control freaks want everyone to use EVs doesn't mean we have to use them, you know because of their faux concern for the environment and all. The same people pushing the EVs likely had a huge hand in sabotaging the electric grid around America to include expensive, wasteful, environment harming, solar panels and windmills, which are unreliable to say the least. And there's also the problem with the batteries for these EVs using up resources, and discarding them when they're toast. Seriously, these morons hamstring the electric grid, then want to force people into EVs that use more electricity. There's another facet to all this. That is, the same group of people who were all for the environment and preventing coal fired, hydro, and nuclear power plants now support building AI Data Centers which use huge amounts of energy for them to operate. If anyone had an iota of doubt of their disingenuousness about the whole climate thingey, that should have been the eye opener. What a crock all this is.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: JimBob 8/12/2026 11:10:22 AM (No. 2137652)
I believe that EV's have their place. As #1 says, there are situations where they are a good choice. I am against subsidies. Let the free market decide. A quick search on the Fathom battery yielded the statement "The Ford Fathom battery employs lithium manganese rich (LMR) cell chemistry." The statement continued that this design offers lower cost, better range, and IMPROVED SAFETY "reducing the risks associated with battery failures". I hope Ford is correct on this. Also, Ford may be taking future politics into account. If -and eventually when- the 'Rats regain the Congress, or the White House, or both, the EV regulations will likely return with renewed force. As the electric companies prefer a constant load, if programs can be set up so that most EV charging is done late at night and in the 'wee hours of the morning", the impact on the electric grid can be minimized, allowing utility generating capacity to be ramped up gradually to accommodate the gradually increasing demand as (and if) EV's become more widely used. EV's aren't a universal solution, but they are a tool in the transportation toolbox.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: ldb51 8/12/2026 12:15:34 PM (No. 2137672)
#5: the grid would have to triple... on top of the 3-4 X grid capacity growth required by the AI/Internet data center expansion.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Vaquero45 8/12/2026 12:18:52 PM (No. 2137673)
Anyone who buys an electric car is a moron. Period. They’re glorified golf carts that catch fire.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DVC 8/12/2026 12:23:16 PM (No. 2137676)
One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting to get a different outcome. Communists do it. Ecocrazies do it. Reality doesn't much intrude on their insane little world built on fantasy and circular logic where wrong outcomes "just need a bit of fine tuning".
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 8/12/2026 1:16:21 PM (No. 2137709)
I'll have to disagree with #1. Hybrids are a very, very expensive way to get a moderate increase in fuel economy, in exchange for a big up front charge and a very complex system. EVs -- useful commuter vehicles for some folks. Useless crap for most. EXPENSIVE either way.
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