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Israel Knew About Hamas' Attack Plan a
Year in Advance But Didn't Take It Seriously

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Posted By: Dreadnought, 12/2/2023 12:28:47 AM

One of the questions that has been asked since the 10/7 attack was how Hamas caught Israel so unprepared to respond. Within days of the attack there were reports that Hamas had been planning and training for it for more than a year. CNN reported there were half a dozen training camps set up to drill Hamas fighters in preparation for the attack. So how did Israel miss it? According to a story published today by the NY Times, Israel didn’t miss it. In fact, they had Hamas’ detailed attack plan a year ago. They just didn’t believe Hamas could pull it off and so didn’t prepare to respond to it.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: frew 12/2/2023 3:28:38 AM (No. 1608787)
Israeli intelligence had too many other fish to fry, like getting rid of Netanyahu, to pay attention to a threat from Hamas. But, to be fair, in retrospect, all of Israel was seized by a wave of wishful thinking about Hamas. It’s hard for good people to be cynical all the time.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MrDeplorable 12/2/2023 4:37:14 AM (No. 1608800)
You may be forgiven for underestimating your enemy but not by him. Lao atsugi
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Reply 3 - Posted by: MrDeplorable 12/2/2023 4:40:57 AM (No. 1608804)
Sorry for second post but Spelchek seems to prefer the Japanese military strategist Lao atsugi to his Chinese counterpart, Lao Tzu.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: BarryNo 12/2/2023 7:23:31 AM (No. 1608839)
Maybe Israelis should take a good hard look at Mossad and it's associates and decide if they are really serving their nation. The people who made the decisions to downplay the Hamas operations should be forcibly retired if not jailed.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: PChristopher 12/2/2023 8:24:44 AM (No. 1608875)
If modern American generals had missed something of this magnitude, they wouldn't have punished...they would've been promoted and decorated with a cushy job waiting for them at Raytheon
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Reply 6 - Posted by: rikkitikki 12/2/2023 9:01:46 AM (No. 1608919)
If someone had warned me of 9-11 before it happened, I would not have believed them, either. In hindsight, terror is always about asymmetric leverage...waste a few "soldiers" to get a hugely disproportionate effect. I predict the crazy muslims will keep on doing same until they renounce their hatred for all infidels, or until he11 freezes over, whichever happens first.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: chefrandy 12/2/2023 9:06:46 AM (No. 1608926)
What?? Did they have a bunch of ex-FBI and CIA types advising them or what? You know the ones who wondered why on earth a training pilot was only concerned about takeoffs instead of landings.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Strike3 12/2/2023 10:18:47 AM (No. 1609027)
Exactly, #7. Anybody can land a plane if he isn't at all particular about the landing spot.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: czechlist 12/2/2023 10:59:47 AM (No. 1609098)
have our intelligence agencies and leadership ever given less than adequate attention to a threat? have our enemies ever paid a price for their leadership's decisions?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: cor-vet 12/2/2023 11:21:07 AM (No. 1609118)
If that's really the case, I'll bet they'll take every thing they find seriously now!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DVC 12/2/2023 12:22:07 PM (No. 1609178)
If true, there needs to be some replacements in the "intelligence". Perhaps it's like US "intelligence" a place where political operatives play Stasi and KGB against honest patriots wanting a free country.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: columba 12/2/2023 2:44:37 PM (No. 1609303)
People who have morals have dificulty taking seriously people who have no morals.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Foghorn 12/2/2023 6:09:16 PM (No. 1609387)
Biden may mot have taken it seriously but someone did. Evidence of that is the government ran a national emergency communications test 3 days before the attack on Israel. Maybe someone was expecting trouble in the USA. Everyone knew about a year before the attack that Hamas was planning something but it was never clear what. Israel knew more than others but kept it close. They could not attack Gaza because the whole world would have been up in arms against Israel if they had attacked to stop the Oct 7 attack.
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