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Ron DeSantis is now beating Trump AND
Biden: Florida governor's popularity surges
as Republican support for a Donald 2024
run collapses, poll shows

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Posted By: Imright, 12/13/2022 12:11:27 PM

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is fast emerging as a top 2024 presidential contender capable of beating both Donald Trump and President Joe Biden, an early election poll suggested on Tuesday.  The new USA Today/Suffolk University survey shows that a majority of GOP voters want Trump to pass the torch to the 44-year-old Republican governor - despite having declared his own third White House campaign last month. And while the ex-president trails Biden in a theoretical head-to-head rematch, DeSantis holds a narrow lead over the Democrat of about four points.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: ldb51 12/13/2022 12:18:24 PM (No. 1355631)
Phase one of the Dem/RINO plan is shaping up nicely: drive Trump's re-election chances into the mud by propping up potential opponents and giving DT no air. Once that is done to their satisfaction, all guns will turn on DeSantis
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All 12/13/2022 12:23:21 PM (No. 1355635)
Two leftist hack "news" organs (Daily Mail, USA Today) are both running the same story. That raises suspicions right there. That being said, I don't think Trump would win the general in '24. I truly believe there is so much Trump hatred that people would vote for his socialist opponent just to keep him out of the WH, even if they know deep down that having the socialists in charge is not a good idea. Trump did a great job and he should still be in office, but there were enough Trump haters in the pubbie party that they did not want to seriously investigate the numerous allegations of fraud in 2020. They won't change their ways in '24 either.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Alecto2 12/13/2022 12:24:24 PM (No. 1355637)
DeSantis is not his own man. Owned by his big donors.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: velirotta 12/13/2022 12:28:12 PM (No. 1355640)
Nobody asked me. I've had enough of the phony Trump/DeSantis "quarrel" in the past few months. Trump is still my guy.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 12/13/2022 12:37:48 PM (No. 1355652)
Oh, it's the DM again.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Gallo3 12/13/2022 12:41:05 PM (No. 1355656)
Bravo Sierra. Fake News.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: earlybird 12/13/2022 12:56:58 PM (No. 1355665)
UK tabloid. Two long years until election.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Pammie 12/13/2022 12:57:56 PM (No. 1355666)
President Trump was able to run the country without beholden to anyone. Governor DeSantis is running a state with the backing of the unit party. BIG DIFFERENCE….GEEZE!
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Reply 9 - Posted by: padiva 12/13/2022 12:58:44 PM (No. 1355667)
Still with PDT.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Pammie 12/13/2022 12:58:44 PM (No. 1355668)
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Reply 11 - Posted by: stablemoney 12/13/2022 1:03:28 PM (No. 1355670)
This only shows that all the people that want to get Trump, still do. There has not been any change in the support for Trump. People are taking their year end vacations and getting ready for the holidays. It is not all politics every minute for some of us.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: snakeoil 12/13/2022 1:03:37 PM (No. 1355671)
At my age my main goad is to make it to 2024. If I do I will vote for who ever (or is it whom ever) is the nominee of the GOP. Am ambivalent about the choice between President Trump and Ron DeSantis. PT is easily the best president of my lifetime. But he is no spring chicken. And I saw some of the lines of voters in 2020 and some of them hate PT as much as I love him. The main goal is to win. Not to make a valiant effort like Barry Goldwater. I just don't know.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: bad-hair 12/13/2022 1:07:27 PM (No. 1355677)
Donald's a GUARANTTED one term 80 year old president. Good as he was, DeSantis 24. Oh, did I mention, v Mooch.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: jasonB 12/13/2022 1:08:25 PM (No. 1355679)
Sorry guys (I'll start this by saying I was/am a broken glass crawling Trump guy) but, Trump has made a lot of unforced errors. DeSantis has just announced that he's trying to get a grand jury to investigate the pharmaceutical companies and their Covid concoctions. He's made REAL changes in FL. NOT just talked about it. If Trump would show just a modicum of contrition ie. staffing choices/Fauci/not understanding the new ground game, to name a few. It would go a LONG way in reassuring people that he learned from last time. Plus he's old. I constantly lambast all politicians that have to be dragged out feet first. Feel free to enjoy the last years of your life. Look back fondly on your sizable accomplishments. Let the next generation have it's turn.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Mofongo 12/13/2022 1:12:39 PM (No. 1355682)
Does Imright work for the Daily Mail? Why does he inflict this upon us like clockwork?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: kreeger 12/13/2022 1:15:43 PM (No. 1355685)
Ron DeSantis is by far the better candidate than DJT. He much more articulate and he knows how to select the right people to serve with him. Trump rambles on and is unable to make concise and compelling arguments to support his positions. He also brought in many people who ended up sabotaging him from within because they did not agree with his policies. If only he had learned the lesson of the story of the woman and the spider.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: slipstik 12/13/2022 1:16:56 PM (No. 1355686)
Yes, I agree to hold my nose for the twenty fifth time and vote for the e candidate...not. ever. again. I'm done with these people.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Enoch Powell 12/13/2022 1:18:31 PM (No. 1355689)
There is so much animus against Trump... the best president ever! But maybe DeSantis is more of a winner. It's a shame but so be it.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Quigley 12/13/2022 1:42:35 PM (No. 1355709)
Maybe desantis has a magic wand to defeat the swamp. Or maybe Trump has exposed them such that they will be defeated. I hope desantis is as good as his sound bites. I like him but need to see a lot more, especially when the full force of the US government coordinating with the media turns the guns on him. I hope backing desantis doesn’t turn out to be quitting drilling before hitting target depth. Desantis 2028.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: judy 12/13/2022 1:51:41 PM (No. 1355714)
Sorry fake news…Trump supporters will Not abandon him..,they will treat DeSantis the same as they did Trump...,.the left is pure evil….
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Reply 21 - Posted by: judy 12/13/2022 1:54:42 PM (No. 1355719)
DeSantis is rounding up Big $$$ donors…Trump didn’t need Big $$ donors he had the people!!! Fake media is trying to destroy the Republican Party with Fake news…
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Reply 22 - Posted by: The Remnants 12/13/2022 1:54:50 PM (No. 1355720)
Daily Mail - Always has the best interests of the United States at heart - NOT Does this newspaper ever criticize its mother country, Britain? Do the editors of The Daily Mail believe that "There Will Always Be An England"?
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Starboard_side 12/13/2022 1:58:17 PM (No. 1355724)
Unfortunately, and unless these Twitter files, and the subsequent House investigations regarding Russia, Russia, Russia and the two impeachment shams, clearly show President Trump had no involvement, he is now branded by the Democrats in a very negative light. Trump knows all about branding too. He should be okay with simply getting his name cleared and be happy with what Rush used to say, "See, I told you so" outcome. Stay behind the scene and be a power broker, but not the headliner any longer. I told my wife when he came down that escalator and declared his candidacy, that he was going to be challenged in every way because he actually wanted to fix things, not just talk about the problems like so many politicians and bureaucrats want to do. You simply can't challenge the system like that, as it has major push-back, until you have BIG majorities. Heck, just read how Obama passed a law to allow the government to propagandize in a lawful way. I did not recall that happening. You want to use the "power of the purse", then you'll need to get off of the 15 years of CR's and Omnibus budgets, and return to General Order, but no one seems to have a desire for that anymore.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Frederic F. Frew 12/13/2022 2:02:20 PM (No. 1355726)
I see attacks on the Daily Mail, attacks on the OP, attacks on DeSantis, attacks on anyone who dares say a negative word about Trump...but nothing refuting the argument that Trump's fading and cannot win in 2024.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: kewmac 12/13/2022 2:31:45 PM (No. 1355741)
The Daily Mail, USA Today, CNN and MSNBC constitue the propaganda wing of the democrats. As soon as they can eliminate Trump, they will give full attention to DeSantis or whoever the R candidate is and proceed to slander, libel, and otherwise destroy the new R candidate. In 2028 we will be able to read about how DeSantis has been colluding with the Russians, about how polarizing he is, and how tactless he is. Anyone want to bet against me?
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Reply 26 - Posted by: msjena 12/13/2022 2:31:59 PM (No. 1355742)
The Democrats plan to kill Trump by supporting DeSantis before they kill DeSantis.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: hershey 12/13/2022 2:37:30 PM (No. 1355747)
Big news... a donkey with a stick could beat Biteme like an Indian drum....
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Reply 28 - Posted by: red1066 12/13/2022 2:39:29 PM (No. 1355750)
Any poll taken at this time about the 2024 election is total BS.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: The Remnants 12/13/2022 2:49:44 PM (No. 1355758)
I remember thinking - before 2016 - that what we need is someone who can't be bought, and that's who we got in Trump, and others find that really hard to understand.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 12/13/2022 3:04:07 PM (No. 1355766)
The plan to divide the Republican Party is working. If DeSantis were for a united party, he would put his ego aside and go full in for Trump. If there were no Trump, it would be back to the old "Pay to Play" game that has been in vogue for more years than I care to remember, and that's a lot of years! As for me, I'm staying the course with The Donald.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: joew9 12/13/2022 3:12:14 PM (No. 1355772)
Nothing like fixing a hurricane smashed bridge in a week when everyone said it would take a year to improve your standing in the polls. I was facing a year of taking a ferry or boat to my house for a year. DeSantis and Honch construction are my heroes.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: DVC 12/13/2022 3:28:41 PM (No. 1355785)
DM gas always hated Trump, and always pushes the antiTrump hate.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: chance_232 12/13/2022 3:28:57 PM (No. 1355786)
I can't help but think that a lot of the animus directed at Trump was precisely due to him not being owned. That said, he's been begging for cash, everyday, multiple times a day from supporters. It got so bad that I had to uunsubsidized. He raised 10's or hundreds of millions and didn't use it to help his own candidates in the mid-terms. I expect that DeSantis poll numbers are rising. He's been an excellent governor. And he doesn't make stupid statements. Like suspend the constitution. He doesn't do dinner with nei-nazis, and he can tear down the press without resorting to childish name calling. Frankly, Trumps biggest problem is himself.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: MindMadeUp 12/13/2022 4:11:51 PM (No. 1355814)
My only real issue with Trump at this point is his age. If only he were 20 years younger. He would do better to sit back and be a strong influence, like an anti-Soros.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Venturer 12/13/2022 4:33:18 PM (No. 1355828)
Trump is a pretty smart man. He should be able to read the hand writing on the wall Americans want a strong leader, but one who can get along with his party and bring together a party that is split. Trump was a great President IMO, but his time has passed him by. He could be a great help to another candidate.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: JackBurton 12/13/2022 4:59:47 PM (No. 1355847)
Until the fraud is addressed... .....does any of this matter?
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Reply 37 - Posted by: anniebc 12/13/2022 7:45:01 PM (No. 1355956)
This poll has convinced me to throw in with DeSantis. Not! How does everything change in just a week or two? Gimme a break!
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Kate318 12/13/2022 8:07:49 PM (No. 1355972)
Then, you’re not looking or listening, #24. Plenty of posters have told you many times why they think Trump is not “fading,” including the fact that they intend to vote for him. But, you don’t want to hear that. And, for your information, Fred, disagreeing with your position is not an attack. Your starting to sound like a cry-baby leftist.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 12/13/2022 8:08:33 PM (No. 1355973)
I predict in 2024 the winning ticket will be Trump/DeSantis.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: Californian 12/13/2022 9:56:23 PM (No. 1356010)
Troll article about a troll poll from [don't want to violate L policies]. Every single election they feed us bs polls to create the same narrative and try to push out the more conservative candidates they don't like. More garbage. I'm really tired of seeing RINOs posting how Trump is fading or Trump is controversial or whatever they're told to believe that week by the leftist. If you want a mushy nobody who will help guide America through a smooth decline then vote Jeb! again. There are plenty like him or McCain or Romney or murkowsky or Chris from New Jersey or Cheney or omg the list of America haters is so long.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: MissMann 12/14/2022 1:30:20 PM (No. 1356518)
They're waiting until he has cleared the field and there is no turning back before unleashing the tons and tons of data showing him to be a RINO who has cozied up to not only other RINOs but the dems and their puppetmasters. Please do your own research before you fall in love with the Big D.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: broken01 12/14/2022 2:06:31 PM (No. 1356537)
The Daily Mail is the dumpster and USA Today is the fire. Enough said!
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The White House on Monday announced $55 billion in economic aid, health care, and security support for Africa. President Joe Biden hosted a meeting for African leaders that began on Tuesday, during which the White House promised more details of the massive benefits package would be divulged. “Working closely with Congress, the U.S. will commit $55 billion to Africa over the course of the next three years across a wide range of sectors to tackle the core challenges of our time,” White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan told reporters on Monday.
“Democracy Dies in Darkness, Huh?”:
Washington Post Publisher Stuns Newsroom
With Layoff Bombshell—And Hasty Exit
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Posted by Dreadnought 12/14/2022 5:07:51 PM Post Reply
The Washington Post Guild went into Wednesday’s town hall with a plan Anticipating that publisher Fred Ryan wasn’t going to take live questions—he wasn’t so happy the last time he was publicly confronted by a staffer in such a forum—they’d crowd-sourced a list of questions in advance and got more than 70 staffers to send a version of these questions to HR, according to a member of the Guild. The Guild had 10 designated questioners who would pop up during the Q&A portion of Wednesday’s town hall. But when that time came, after an hour-plus meeting of presentations for various initiatives, like the Post’s climate coverage and David Shipley’s plans
FTX Founder Sam Bankman-Fried Denied Bail
in Bahamas After Arrest, Faces up to 115
Years in Jail
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Posted by earlybird 12/14/2022 3:19:15 PM Post Reply
Sam Bankman-Fried, the owner of the failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX, has been denied bail after his arrest in the Bahamas at the request of the U.S. government on Monday. In a hearing that lasted more than three hours on Tuesday, Chief Magistrate Joyann Ferguson-Pratt ruled that Bankman-Fried’s $250,000 bail request would be denied on the basis that Bankman-Fried poses a flight risk because of his access to financial resources. The judge ordered the 30-year-old to be remanded to a Bahamas correctional facility until Feb. 8, 2023.
FBI may have violated First Amendment
with Twitter moderation requests, experts warn
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Posted by Imright 12/14/2022 11:17:34 AM Post Reply
The FBI may have may have violated the First Amendment by asking Twitter to moderate certain speech, as revealed in a recent "Twitter Files" release, constitutional experts tell Fox News Digital.  A Twitter Files installment released by Substack journalist Matt Taibbi last week revealed Twitter’s former head of safety, Yoel Roth, apparently attended weekly meetings with the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and the Director of National Intelligence about moderating misinformation ahead of the 2020 election. In October 2020,
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