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Anti-Gun Rhetoric Doesn't Help With Domestic
Violence Tragedies

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Posted By: 4250Luis, 10/3/2025 10:04:53 AM

I'm far from an expert statistician, but I've learned a few things over the years about how people use and abuse statistics in order to make their political point. There are a lot of ways you can make a mild thing look absolutely horrific, all by presenting the statistics a certain way. In the Second Amendment debate, we see this a lot. And, well, we're going to see it again, this time as domestic violence prevention advocates try to misrepresent the statistics to push for gun control. So, they're citing Everytown--a gun control organization that has a well-documented history of shady research--

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Reply 1 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper 10/3/2025 11:08:25 AM (No. 2012014)
Happened yesterday: https://www.durangoherald.com/articles/two-hospitalized-after-shooting-at-durango-walmart/
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 10/3/2025 12:12:05 PM (No. 2012045)
The "Everythown" group quoted in the article is a astroturf antigun group created and funded by Michael Bloomberg, who is an ultra partisan against any and all gun ownership. So, anything from that org is guaranteed to be very twisted against guns. Second, domestic violence is extremely unpredictable. People in that sort of a relationship are so emotionally deranged that they become extremely unpredictable. Several friends who were police officers have told me that their most unpredictable and threatening sort of police calls are domestic violence calls. They get a lot of training and in general, two officers are sent, one to talk to the husband, one to the wife, even though there is often no actual marriage. It isn't unusual for a husband to be getting arrested because the wife is all beat up when the officers arrive, and for the wife to grab a gun or knife and attack the officers because she can't bear to have her assaulter arrested. Irrationality and violence are common. And way too many men get deranged about the woman that "they love". They beat the hell out of them regularly, but swear "if you try to leave me, I'll kill you". This sort of a violent, emotional, irrational environment is what the author is referring to. Very dangerous for everyone, including police officers who come in to try to sort it out.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: DVC 10/3/2025 12:15:35 PM (No. 2012047)
Re the article linked by #1. I've been to Durango a number of times, and generally it's a small city with a bunch of outdoors types mixed with rancher and hunter types, with a bunch of tourists mixed in. Not a place that one would think of this sort of violence, but "domestics", as the cops call them, can boil up anywhere there are people.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: chumley 10/3/2025 1:29:49 PM (No. 2012105)
Just another case of a group arriving at a conclusion and only then looking for roads that lead to it. Nothing with even the slightest political bent to it can be trusted.
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I'm far from an expert statistician, but I've learned a few things over the years about how people use and abuse statistics in order to make their political point. There are a lot of ways you can make a mild thing look absolutely horrific, all by presenting the statistics a certain way. In the Second Amendment debate, we see this a lot. And, well, we're going to see it again, this time as domestic violence prevention advocates try to misrepresent the statistics to push for gun control. So, they're citing Everytown--a gun control organization that has a well-documented history of shady research--
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