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Trump-proofing weapons for Ukraine: Allies
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Posted By: Harlowe, 4/2/2024 10:31:05 PM

The U.S. and other Western countries are considering transferring to NATO a U.S.-led multinational group that coordinates the shipment of weapons to Ukraine, one of several new proposals that could help maintain the flow of arms to Kyiv under a second Donald Trump presidency.[Snip]Formalizing the group within NATO would go a long way toward protecting support for Ukraine from changes in U.S. and Western governments, experts said--and particularly from Trump.[Snip]“Pulling this under NATO kind of isolates it from a Trump presidency, or even from a U.S. that might get distracted by China and can’t keep it going or can’t get his own funding act together,” he added.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 4/2/2024 11:09:21 PM (No. 1691383)
I'd like to see weapons flowing to Ukraine, regardless who is president. Ukraine was attacked by the Thugocracy which runs Russia, and is valiantly defending itself at great cost of their OWN soldiers lives. They ask only for the tools to defend themselves. This seems easy both ethically and morally to support. I am still just baffled by the hate directed by the ignorant and disinformed who have never met a Ukrainian, never been to the county yet are certain that they are not humans, but evil vermin deserving to die at the hands of the Russians for crime of defending their country.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: plomke 4/2/2024 11:29:53 PM (No. 1691399)
In a post constitutional country such as the USA,does it matter how we hide our grifting? As long as Mrs Z gets her Faberge Eggs and The Big Guy gets his 10% it really doesn't matter anyway...
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Californian 4/2/2024 11:37:39 PM (No. 1691402)
There are always wars going on somewhere on the planet yet this is the only one we talk about every day and pump $100 Billion into. Why? Ukraine sells wheat. They will continue doing so under Putin. We have no strategic interests there and we are not the world's police or mercenary army.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Catherine 4/2/2024 11:54:06 PM (No. 1691411)
I think the real problem # 1 - is the amount of money we are sending Ukraine. How many billions do we have to send them? I don't have to meet people to want to help them but at some point that money will need to be repaid and if Ukraine will do that, then no problem. I'm not so sure they will.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: frankiems 4/3/2024 6:59:17 AM (No. 1691538)
Please watch documentary "Ukraine on Fire". It's an eye opener and will cause you to question what you have been told by the media.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Bur Oak 4/3/2024 7:37:24 AM (No. 1691562)
War profiteers have to keep the profits coming.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 4/3/2024 10:31:25 AM (No. 1691737)
Re #4, we were never repaid by Britain or France for what we gave them in WW2.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Harlowe 4/3/2024 1:51:20 PM (No. 1691887)
#1~ “baffled by the hate directed by the ignorant and disinformed who have never met a Ukrainian, never been to the county yet are certain that they are not humans, but evil vermin deserving to die at the hands of the Russians for crime of defending their country.” / Having read numerous previously posted appreciated and supportive comments about the Ukrainian people as well as criticism toward people choosing to be neutral about the goings-on in Ukraine prompts this response. Be assured, the heartfelt concern and defense of Ukrainian citizens expressed in previous comments is shared by many with some being of Russian and/or Ukrainian heritage to the extent of having had family members gratefully reach Ellis Island in the early 1900s. The reality is, Americans no longer know what to believe due to the manipulation of news that is absent of fact but replete with conjecture and outright political bias. Further, awareness that George Soros has boasted he has more influence in Ukraine than he does in any other country; Volodymyr Zelensky’s alleged “ties to Klaus Schwab, Justin Trudeau and other global elites”; Volodymyr Zelensky’s banning the Ukrainian Orthodox Church; Volodymyr Zelensky’s denial of the Holocaust; the tragedy of the death of American citizen Gonzalo Lira in a Ukraine prison; and the elusive or seemingly nonexistent trail of U. S. financial assistance to Ukraine serve to make Americans cautious. It is not the suffering Ukrainian people being disregarded, but appears to be the wariness of Ukraine’s government.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Harlowe 4/3/2024 2:00:48 PM (No. 1691894)
#7~ The Post-World War II economy in this country was far different than the national $31+ trillion debt that exists now.
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