The FBI’s weird relationship with Alec Baldwin
American Thinker,
by
John Green
Original Article
Posted By: DW626,
1/21/2024 9:22:39 AM
Is it just me, or does the Alec Baldwin manslaughter case seem strange?
After a person was killed while working on a movie set, manslaughter charges were filed, then dropped, and then refiled. The FBI was used to test the evidence, but then the evidence was taken away from the FBI and sent to a private lab. What gives?
As a recap, in October of 2021, Alec Baldwin accidently shot and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins while filming his new movie Rust. Baldwin claimed that the revolver he was holding for the western went off without pulling the trigger.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Knotwyrkin 1/21/2024 9:30:19 AM (No. 1641142)
He is a well-known flaming liberal. The rules are different for them.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
JackBurton 1/21/2024 9:42:54 AM (No. 1641151)
The gun he had was single action. You can't make the hammer go back by pulling the trigger; you must do it with your thumb. Correctly pulled back, it will 'French name for Rooster' (the real spelling is forbidden language on this site), that is, lock into place ready to be released by pulling the trigger.
BUT, if you pulled the hammer back NOT far enough to 'French name for Rooster', and released it, it would strike the cartridge and fire the weapon. Only an idiot would do that... but... we're talking Baldwin here. If you remember your old westerns, the marksman hero would hold the trigger pulled and 'fan' the hammer to rapid fire the weapon. I believe Baldwin did the first and not the second action but, whichever, the weapon went off. He was an idiot. You don't give a kid the car keys with no instruction; he had no instruction (Liberals know it all already)
Separate issue: Who left real cartridges, and not blanks, in the weapon. If you ARE going to give an untrained kid the car keys, you keep the gas tank empty.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Mizz Fixxit 1/21/2024 9:53:54 AM (No. 1641162)
Two outcomes are likely when the FBI interferes —— they bungle the case or engage in a cover up. Defund the FBI.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Venturer 1/21/2024 10:02:50 AM (No. 1641168)
You never point any gun, unloaded or not at anything you do not intend to shoot.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Hazymac 1/21/2024 10:06:07 AM (No. 1641171)
"I understand you men were just playing around, but the mule doesn't get it...." That's Clint Eastwood from A Fistful of Dollars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UYhOvFGnYw
The old single action Western pistols were "fanners," meaning that a shooter had to fan to shoot fast. Another great example was what Charles Bronson aka Harmonica did in the fourth spaghetti Western, Once Upon a Time in the West, which was IMO the greatest Western I ever saw. All three Eastwood spaghettis are also classic. Sergio Leone was one of the greatest of all cinematic directors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UYhOvFGnYw
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
stablemoney 1/21/2024 10:24:24 AM (No. 1641184)
The FBI has never been great. We are only now learning how crooked they have always been.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Strike3 1/21/2024 10:25:45 AM (No. 1641185)
May I remind you of the FBI agent who was drinking and dancing in a club in Washington and his Glock (no safety) fell to the floor and shot somebody in the ankle. They aren't exactly firearms experts.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
udanja99 1/21/2024 10:38:12 AM (No. 1641193)
#5, I completely agree with you on “Once Upon a Time in The West” and you’re one of the few people I’ve ever had contact with who feels that way. My husband thinks it’s one of the worst movies ever made. I believe that it’s the only movie Henry Fonda ever made where he played a bad guy and he did it SO well. The soundtrack is awesome too.
As for Baldwin, he needs to spend the rest of his life in a basement cell in a prison, in solitary so he can’t abuse anyone.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
hershey 1/21/2024 11:16:53 AM (No. 1641222)
He'll get off eventually...he's a good democrat...
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Hazymac 1/21/2024 11:22:21 AM (No. 1641228)
Here's Harmonica fanning. Yes, it's the greatest Western ever, even after Clint Eastwood (who didn't want to be type cast) refused tyhe role of Harmonica. Charles Bronson turned that role into arguably the best of hsi distinguished career. Great , great movie, especially with the blue-eyed total bad man Frank, (Henry Fonda). When Sergio Leone first met Fonda, Henry was wearing contact lenses that turned his blue eyes brown. Leone told Henry to lose the contacts. The blue eyes were perfect for the ultimate bad guy. Unexpected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyuwBW9lNa8
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
DVC 1/21/2024 11:35:18 AM (No. 1641240)
FBI is across the board a bunch of criminals and incompetents. And for a lunatic Trump hater like Baldwin, they'd be willing to do ANYTHING at all to get him off on this criminal act.
It has been well known for 150 years that this particular design of revolver, could, under extreme impact circumstances like a long drop where the hammer of the gun is struck against a rock, that it could possibly fire. However, this require a very hard blow, and typically like dropping it from horseback onto a rock.
However, when the gun is used even remotely normally, it is extremely simple, robust and safe.
Baldwin didn't drop the gun, he was holding it in his hand. The ONLY way it fires under those circumstances is to pull the trigger after fully retracting the hammer, a very long, heavy, deliberate act.
Without the hammer being fully back, the gun will not fire. And then only when the trigger is pulled.
There's no "magic escape route" from this responsibility for Baldwin.
One of the theories on an accidental firing without touching the trigger is that perhaps, while pulling back the hammer, if the hammer slipped out of control prior to being caught by the trigger mechanism, it could fall and fire the gun. A number of folks have put up YouTube videoes testing this theory. Multiple testers, multiple identical brand and model guns were tested. The energy in the hammer at partial retraction, before it reaches the first internal trigger safety notch, is not capable of firing the cartridge. Many tries, many cartridges, many guns. The halfway point in the hammer retraction has a safety notch in the internal catch in the trigger mechanism. This is called, pretty obviously, the halfcock notch. And, when the hammer is in this halfway position, it has just barely enough energy to fire a cartridge.....BUT is impossible to be dropped intentionally or accidentally by pulling the trigger. The trigger is locked in this position. Only by continuing to pull back the hammer to the fully cocked position is it set to be released by pulling the trigger.
The typical force to retract the hammer fully is enough that women often have difficulty doing it without two hands being used, although most men can do it pretty easily with a strong thumb pull. Not something to be done by accident. Probably about a 15 lb pull needed to fully retract the hammer on one of these.
At this point, the gun is ready for immediate use, and a few pounds, typically 4 to 6 lbs force on the trigger will make it fire.
For all who know this gun, it'd design, and it's advantages and disadvantages -- there is absolutely no "out" for Baldwin. He lied about 'not touching the trigger', pure and simple. This sort of lie is extremely common among people who make this sort of a deadly error, desperate to deflect blame by claiming mechanical defect. If the gun is inspected and found to be undamaged, there is no 'mechanical excuse'.
And prior to the idiots in the FBI hitting parts with a mallet, and probably many times, and very hard, the gun was reported to be working exactly as designed and built.
Baldwin's fault.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Lazyman 1/21/2024 12:17:29 PM (No. 1641269)
The whole time Mueller was doing his investigation the FBI knew that that Trump was innocent and that the Steele dossier was totally bogus. They had knowingly used the false opposition research to obtain FISA warrants. At anytime they could have told the truth and ended the national nightmare and the unfair cancer placed on Trump's presidency. This is an agency that needs to be reformed as well as the DOJ to work for "We the People," which all Americans should agree on. I'm not sure how the illegals feel about it though and it appears they have a lot of pull.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
walcb 1/21/2024 1:02:06 PM (No. 1641291)
Interesting theory and one which cannot be dismissed now with the known dirty tricks the FIB employs regularly.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
formerNYer 1/21/2024 1:10:21 PM (No. 1641300)
Baldwin has millions which he happily give to D'Rats who's suprised he one of the chosen?
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
snakeoil 1/21/2024 1:20:03 PM (No. 1641302)
Am no fan of the arrogant, obnoxious Alec Baldwin. But, the person who should be charged with a crime is whoever was responsible for having real, live ammo on a movie set. The gun itself is not a problem. Without ammo a gun is just a hunk of steel. Of course Baldwin is lying. And if he does it under oath he is guilty of perjury. But I doubt he put the ammo is the gun.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
BarryNo 1/21/2024 3:32:54 PM (No. 1641362)
FBI has never, not been corrupt. J. Edgar Hoover was an excellent example. There have been good men, but even good men can be corrupted if those in authority are corrupted.
The same holds true of the CIA. They helped to stabilize the Soviet Union and create Red China on behalf of Democrats. They were spiritual siblings with the Democrats and useful scarecrows to frighten voters into supporting any action taken to inhibit their open malevolence. Meanwhile, Democrats were secretly malevolent and also in a position to sell technology to the USSR and CCP for lots and lots of money.
Over the years, they've added the Islamic nations to their best buddies list. The sad part?: Once we get rid of these traitors and the Soviets (Russians) and the CCP and the Islamic nations will realize they cant use us, anymore, they WILL try to destroy us.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Omen55 1/21/2024 7:49:40 PM (No. 1641505)
No matter what his lawyers say publicly they will be wanting a plea bargain as they don't want a jury to decide.
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