The Meatgrinder – REPORT: U.S. and EU
Officials Gently Discussing Need for Ukraine
to Enter Peace Negotiations with Russia
Conservative Treehouse,
by
Sundance
Original Article
Posted By: earlybird,
11/4/2023 12:24:35 PM
According to sources who are speaking to NBC News, U.S. and EU officials are gently beginning to talk to Ukraine government officials about what steps might need to be taken to bring an end to the Ukraine-Russia war. Obviously, for those who do not pretend, we all know the decision to end this conflict comes down to the USA telling Ukraine President Zelenskyy to open peace talks with Russia.
The EU NATO alliance has recently started to show less interest in the maintenance of a U.S. proxy war against Russia,(snip)
Zelenskyy is running out of men to throw into the meat grinder; the troops and military leaders are actually defying
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
reefdiver 11/4/2023 12:29:10 PM (No. 1591785)
This should have been done last year and $50 Billion ago.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Quigley 11/4/2023 12:39:38 PM (No. 1591794)
I guess the US told the EU that US public opinion will not support much more of this war graft scheme so they need to switch to the “rebuild Ukraine graft” operation. Putin will get his share of the US tax dollars i assume. The money FLOW!! The US and EU will divy up the rebuild between US and EU donors.
Dims, go back to sleep. “While you slept we helped ourselves.”
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
bighambone 11/4/2023 12:41:13 PM (No. 1591796)
We have come to these proposed peace negotiations after about 100 billion dollars in U.S. taxpayers money was thrown down the reportedly corrupt Ukrainian tubes, with no doubt a lot of that money ending up being stolen, that could have been used to better US citizens!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
snakeoil 11/4/2023 12:41:33 PM (No. 1591797)
Doubt Russia will cease unless they get something. There are parts of Ukraine that have Russians. So cede that part of Ukraine to Russia and a promise that Ukraine will not join NATO. Ukraine will need help rebuilding their country. A promise from Russia to help would be nice. The sticker in all of this is who will pay Quid Pro Joe's 10%?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DVC 11/4/2023 12:50:56 PM (No. 1591801)
Very bad idea to attempt to negotiate with totalitarian thugs like Putin. These Euroweenie fools negotiated with Hitler, too......coming back proclaiming "peace in our time".....when what they really had done, in all their cowardly stupidity was embolden him to try to take over the entire continent.
Idiots just cannot learn from history. Stopping tyrants isn't easy, but no matter how difficult it seems now, it will be FAR, FAR more difficult if these fools let this go by "negotiating".
Like negotiating with a snake, the snake will always be a snake, no matter what lies he may tell you.
Eat the Apple, it'll be a good thing.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
smokincol 11/4/2023 1:08:48 PM (No. 1591812)
that will not bring about a peace in any sense of the word, it will only harbor exaggerated feelings of mutual disrespect and contempt
both, Soviet Russia and Ukraine are too willing to enter into an armed conflict for no other reason than they just don't like each other
the history goes back a very, very long time with injustices more on the Russian side than the Ukraine but Ukraine was terribly mistreated during the Second World War by both the Soviets, under Stalin and the
Germans and the memories are still fresh in many people's minds
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
seamusm 11/4/2023 1:13:13 PM (No. 1591815)
None of this would have happened if Biden hadn't moved to bring the Ukraine and its corrupt Zelensky into NATO.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
daisey 11/4/2023 1:16:59 PM (No. 1591820)
Wonder how many people got really wealthy off the lives of hundreds of thousands of deaths. I feel pretty sure the military industrial complex and Joe
did very very well. Why wasn’t this done very early on-$$$$. That’s why. And what did Biden say about being a wartime president? “Nothing to it”. And what did he say yesterday when asked about a cease fire in Israel-Gaza “You got a camera?” Anyway, he went to Rehoboth so he’s not privy to the thousands in DC today. Just watched them all down on their knees, vowing to Allah. Enjoy Delaware, Joe. Sorry excuse for leader. Pathetic and pitiful.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
thomthomp 11/4/2023 1:49:28 PM (No. 1591833)
Joe's handlers are beginning to recognize the Ukraine war is very unpopular. They are looking for a way to pull out with the most possible harm to the United States, then claim a "victory" for master statesman, Joe Biden...
...and many of the Democrat sheep will swallow it.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Alecto2 11/4/2023 1:56:14 PM (No. 1591836)
"Like negotiating with a snake, the snake will always be a snake, no matter what lies he may tell you."
Funny #5, that's what the rest of the world says about us.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
mean Gene 11/4/2023 1:58:38 PM (No. 1591839)
Laundering money is easiest within a "hot" war.
Ukraine is winding down.
Israel/Islam?Hezb'Allah/Hamas is pretty hot.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Kate318 11/4/2023 3:10:38 PM (No. 1591856)
If what I read is correct about Russia’s end game in Ukraine, I hope Russia says nyet.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
red1066 11/4/2023 5:04:30 PM (No. 1591918)
Something that was in the works three months after this whole thing started, but nixed by Biteme and the demosluts.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
mifla 11/5/2023 5:39:35 AM (No. 1592182)
Election coming up and even the Dems are tired of writing checks for the Ukraine.
Vietnam deja vu.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 11/5/2023 6:21:11 AM (No. 1592198)
If Z is in fact running out of soldiers, what choice does he have aside from having to negotitate with Putie the tyrant. I wish it wasn't so, just being realistic.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
TCloud 11/5/2023 6:41:55 AM (No. 1592214)
Putin will only negotiate from a position of strength! The Collective West blew their wad on Ukraine plus they placed smanctions on Putin. Putin owes the Collective West nothing and will take nothing from them. The Bandera movement will be confronted and defeated! The breakaway Republics will do just that! And Peace will be restored to that region of the World. Right Vern? Vern says *spot on*.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 11/5/2023 6:54:01 AM (No. 1592221)
All of this is mind boggling but expected. When Democrats are in power, they want a particular focus group to believe that "they are the ones" and will receive all of the time, efforts, and monies. All of this in-fighting is occurring because focus groups thought they were going to "be the ones" receiving Joe Biden's attention.
What is really sad? This party REALLY believes they are the alternative to God.
It shows.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Rinktum 11/5/2023 7:02:35 AM (No. 1592226)
This was a political war from the beginning. Biden and the rest of the corrupt politicians in Washington DC who were involved in the corruption in Ukraine are protecting their own criminal activities. There have been rumors of biological weapons labs, money laundering and pay for play swirling around this corrupt country for decades. The powers that be ginned up this war because it was necessary to prevent the truth from coming out when a few good men in Ukraine were beginning to expose the corruption. They cabal of democrats and republicans could not have that happening. Of course, this is pure speculation on my part but the fact that Biden was stirring the war pot vigorously before one shot was fired and he did not have a real plan for negotiations indicates to me that it was necessary for the war mongers that the started and continues. I am fed up with Biden and his cabal draining our treasury and sending our military equipment to cover up political corruption. Anyone who was serious about preventing this war would have immediately pressed Russia and Ukraine to have talks. There is a guy whose first response to this would have been exactly that. His desire to stop these endless wars has made him a target of the deep state/military industrial complex. However, he is a hero to every parent of a military aged son/daughter who is sick and tired of sending their sons and daughters to die in these endless wars we never win.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
chance_232 11/5/2023 8:13:07 AM (No. 1592276)
Ukraine can't "win" this war and Russia should have had it wrapped up 17 months ago. This war has been a lose lose proposition for everyone except for the weapons suppliers and criminals skimming the aid. And the war isn't helping democrat re-election prospects because the voters have moved on to new shiny objects and are as always, more concerned with their own financial situation.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
smak90 11/5/2023 8:55:29 AM (No. 1592311)
Sad that hundreds of thousands of young men had to die because the US spent 100 billion to keep this war going. Nothing but a payoff to different groups. No one in charge ever believed for a second that the Ukraine could win and I'm Ukrainian.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 11/5/2023 8:59:26 AM (No. 1592313)
I have a couple of more comments. The Democrats are so busy promising everything to everyone that they are not able to deliver anything to anyone because there too busy lining their own pockets. As a result, nothing for everyone.
It doesn't seem to matter if we are talking about Russian and Ukraine or the Israeli or Palestinian people as the focus is in the wrong place. This is no different than the infighting in families. Children start fighting because they want to believe they are the "special" child rather than a sibling.
This is all so infantile because God should be getting the bouquets and accolades. But wait, Democrats want all of it for themselves and promise it to everyone else. It really is impossible for them to keep up and Joe Biden is way in over his head. . .
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
mjwall69 11/5/2023 9:02:22 AM (No. 1592316)
And how do they know this? Because that's what they've been designing it for. As a bonus, it'll hit just in time for some awesome pre-election, voter fraud enabling lock downs. COVID was the test case for the lockdown side of the equation. Roll out a renamed flu and tell everybody it's horrible to see what they do. Once they felt good that the media did what they were told to do and push the narrative, and all their prime constiuents (morons) were fooled into being enablers, they got to work on the one that would actually affect more than just sick people and the elderly. They'll roll out some hemorragic type thing as horrible as ebola or something that turns people into rabid animals. We're not dealing with people that play fair or care about other people. I pray for the best for us and the worst for them.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Strike3 11/5/2023 10:50:14 AM (No. 1592384)
The only way for Putin to save face is if Ukraine initiates peace talks. Otherwise, the dying dictator will completely annihilate the Russian army and all of their weapons before he goes nuclear. Zalinskyy and his crooked government will be happy to take the billions of dollars that Biden has paid to silence them and retire to their estates and yachts while the Ukrainian people suffer the consequences.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Zigrid 11/5/2023 11:11:44 AM (No. 1592411)
Once the money stops for the oligarchs ....the war will stop...about time for the poor Ukrainians to take back their country.....
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Lazyman 11/5/2023 1:32:28 PM (No. 1592504)
Throwing in the towel already, sorta like Vietnam and Afghanistan? The weapon suppliers make a fortune. Our children get killed. No plan to get out, no plan to win and a diminished treasury made up of IOUs not to mention the world knows we have 0 resolve.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
NotaBene 11/5/2023 2:17:05 PM (No. 1592523)
Burisma made a great investment in the Biden Crime Family. They got a lot and they should now stop the meatgrinder. NATO expansion brought this war on. A happy ending would be if our defeat in Ukraine brings the dissolution of NATO. Our European vassals should take care of Europe,
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Hermit_Crab 11/5/2023 3:26:17 PM (No. 1592545)
They wouldn't be talking about winding down the Ukraine war unless they had another war ready to go to replace it.... Voila! Israel Vs Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Maybe Turkey, and whatever other muzzie-lands that want to join in.
Heck this could even be a more popular war than Ukraine, especially once the jihadists start hitting the USA.
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