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Returning to Neocon Roots – DeSantis
Backtracks on His Tucker Carlson Ukraine
Position as Territorial Dispute, Now Says
“I think it’s been mischaracterized,”
and “Putin is a war criminal”

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Posted By: Kitty Myers, 3/23/2023 8:19:36 AM

After attempting to navigate through the politics in order to curry favor with the base Republican voters on a Ukraine position, when confronted by Piers Morgan who is a pro-NATO war voice, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis now says his former position on Ukraine has been “mischaracterized” and Vladimir Putin “is a war criminal.” The walk back highlights once again that Ron DeSantis is an empty vessel using poll testing to formulate his policy stances. (snip) If the professional Republicans are NOT targeting a Republican politician, you can be assured that Republican politician is a member of the GOPe club operation.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Vitaman 3/23/2023 8:30:51 AM (No. 1431543)
"This is a REAL shocker!" said no one.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Marzipan4 3/23/2023 8:46:40 AM (No. 1431549)
Few address the elephant in the room of how Bidet pushed Zeslimeski to step across the line in the sand reguarding NATO RussIa drew almost a decade ago.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: wayneright 3/23/2023 8:48:54 AM (No. 1431550)
This is the issue with him . Remember he was all for lock downs before he felt the political wind shift.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Red Ghost 3/23/2023 8:52:08 AM (No. 1431554)
From day one I have thought and said this war in Ukraine makes absolutely no sense. The fact that Russia invaded; the fact that the installed Biden regime seem to take glee in the war and helps to continue it anyway can; the fact that we are spending enormous amounts of US taxpayer money on a bottomless pit while the Europeans, as usual refuse to pony up any money and few arms to defend a country in their back yard. BUT, Vladimir Putin IS a war criminal. He has wrecked a country (which the installed Biden regime, read US taxpayers, has committed to rebuilding). Thousands of people, mass amounts of children are dead. Buildings, homes, businesses and cities destroyed. For what? Yes, Vladimir Putin IS a warm criminal. We can all question the Ukraine war and believe Vladimir Putin is a war criminal. Those two things are NOT mutually exclusive. Whether or not Ron DeSantis is a Rhino, remains to be seen. But, this early in the campaign, why the hell are we, pulling apart a guy that could be a great president? I am a Trump loyalist. This man has done things for this country that not even Ronald Reagan did. I support him and will crawl over broken glass to see him get elected. But, we do not know what the future holds and it makes perfect sense for other possible candidates to set up committees and put their toe into the water of this presidential run. We do not want to be flat footed in a year, with no one to step into the presidential election, if for some reason, Trump is not the candidate. We need to stop this destroying our own, talented people. That said, MAGA all the way.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 3/23/2023 8:56:07 AM (No. 1431559)
I'm guessing the money people jerked his leash.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Strike3 3/23/2023 8:58:06 AM (No. 1431561)
OOps. Now is not the time for a misstep when you are in the process of teasing the public about maybe running for POTUS against the best one we have ever had. I still like DeSantis and some of what he said is echoed by Americans who do not like the idea of an open checkbook for Ukraine, especially given the strong probability that Joe and Hunter are in bed with them and have been since Joe was Obama's beech.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Quigley 3/23/2023 9:06:49 AM (No. 1431571)
Hear! Hear! #4. This war sickens me as does my perception of the US's role in fomenting it, the looting of the Ukraine by The Big Bidet and his smarmy video bragging about it, and the little jumped up Ukrainian born freak who impeached Trump. I consider Ukraine close to being an enemy, with that comedian freak president of theirs. I will not vote for desantis and I want him to stay where he is and turn his talents to supporting Trump. But I am not going on the attack over a piers morgan interview. I wonder if it's possible for anyone not a billionaire to stand up to The Huge Machine that has grown up around the money flows of this country. It could be we are trapped in the machine with no way out. If it self destructs in its mindless chase of the stream of bucks, there's nothing to be done. If Trump can't do it, it can't be done. Beating and reforming the machine is all that matters, not some little policy tweak. Carroll Quigley wrote at length about the machine that got us into WW2- too much power in the hands of too few people he concluded. It would hardly be surprising if desantis has to sell out to the machine.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Kate318 3/23/2023 9:09:20 AM (No. 1431574)
Wind sock.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: felixcat 3/23/2023 9:10:57 AM (No. 1431578)
I am going to repeat myself here but once again, I listened this morning on the Larry O'Connor morning show on talk radio, talk with former Green Beret and Iraq/Afghanistan combat veteran and now Congressman from FL, Michael Waltz (R) say that the problem with the US and Ukraine NOT agreeing to a ceasefire is that it is a pause that will help Putin and that the problem is that Putin has not been clear as to what is the goal for his invasion into Eastern Ukraine. WTH? How about the USA being clear as to what is our goal, what is the desired outcome of the US pouring billions of tax dollars until the end. The end meaning what exactly? And Waltz even had the gall to state that we are fighting for freedom in Ukraine. Really Michael? Your beloved Zelensky has outlawed all opposition parties, is jailing Ukrainian Orthodox priests, etc and just to show your ignorance Zelensky doesn't support the LGBTQ+++ agenda - so precious to the Left in this country. There are several countries in this world whose freedom is being tested but we will not fight to defend them will we Rep Waltz? You can listen to this interview later today or tomorrow on the Amal website. And right on cue, DeSantis changes his tune because we have got to keep the money flowing to the defense contractors, the future retiring senior military officers who then go work for these same companies making earning seven figure incomes, etc.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: minuteman 3/23/2023 9:14:56 AM (No. 1431581)
DeSantis wrestles a tar baby.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: ARKfamily 3/23/2023 9:42:42 AM (No. 1431615)
Yet, Joe Biden can keep throwing money at Ukraine and that is alright? How about we stick to the real issues and that is a current, failing administration. I am not wasting my time on all of the miniscule matters between Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis. I support either one of them because they are good leaders. You will never find a perfect candidate and for these people who are pitting Donald Trump against Ron DeSantis, it seems as if you are looking for a perfect candidate. Guess you have all the time in the world for something that cannot happen.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: justavoter 3/23/2023 9:55:51 AM (No. 1431633)
The man just disqualified himself from the Presidential race. You don't call someone a war criminal that you want to negotiate with in a peace deal. What does Putin have to lose now as he ponders the use of his nuclear warheads. What an idiot thing to say. DeSantis put himself right there with Kamala.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: spacer 3/23/2023 9:58:21 AM (No. 1431637)
Do tell.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Moritz55 3/23/2023 10:07:26 AM (No. 1431645)
Thank you, #11
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Reply 15 - Posted by: BluesClues 3/23/2023 10:32:25 AM (No. 1431666)
This is why I don't like DeSantis. Sure he speaks a good game, but he seems to have few principals. When someone tells him, "you shouldn't have said that", he backtracks. Says "Yeah, what I really meant is...". Don't be fooled.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: nerdowell 3/23/2023 10:45:44 AM (No. 1431679)
It's simple really, and simple is all Biden can do. The economy is shambles. Biden can't do economics; he's a thug at heart, from a family of thugs. Without a free-market, a nation cannot generate wealth. With a free market, everybody profits, but you profit less. A growing population needs wealth to maintain quality of life, if not, they get grumpy and will throw you out. Even unions. Fortunately, there's another way to expand the economy: subjugation, brigandage -- expansionist military action -- in other words: the old way. We're the new Rome, so we do what the Romans do: Grab control of territory, and then milk it. When it's done, we'll have natural resources and a servile population to make stuff with it. Cheap. Debt makes your friends rich, but in the end we can replenish the treasury. The immediate advantage: the debt from making weapons will make a lot of people happy, The people will have jobs that pay well. The rich folks will get richer from virtually brain-free investments they make "Its war! Weapons are the future!" Then the subjugated territory brings taxes, resources, cheap labor and markets--as we sell them their stuff back. You can't go wrong; its win/win! Well, as long as we win.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Snow Possum 3/23/2023 10:46:33 AM (No. 1431680)
3, How can you be so certain that he did not change his mind when the EVIDENCE shifted? But while we are looking at COVID-19 responses... what was TRUMP saying when DeSantis lifted the lock downs? He was speaking out FOR continuation as I recall. So, why does Trump get a pass on carrying on with lock down mentality beyond the point at which DeSantis did?
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Reply 18 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden 3/23/2023 11:01:34 AM (No. 1431689)
Sad, NOT smart news: “The DeSantis team has also hired the notorious dirtbag, Jeff Roe.” With young children at home, Ron needs to stay in FL, put his family first, and be the best governor for FL he can be… MAGA
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Reply 19 - Posted by: earlybird 3/23/2023 11:48:15 AM (No. 1431715)
Has obviously done good job as governor, but not ready for world stage.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Geoman 3/23/2023 11:49:07 AM (No. 1431716)
It's no shock that Sundance, like a frothing mouth democrat, is dedicated to damaging the Republican Party. The "poll testing" and "empty vessel" slur on DeSantis describes a populist politician, not an idealogical conservative.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: privateer 3/23/2023 11:50:48 AM (No. 1431718)
I cherish a hope that this feud between RDS and PDJT is actually a scathingly brilliant plan, to wit: it accomplishes keeping both constantly in the news, plus forcing people to choose between them. Then, early in 2023 when the nomination comes about it's Viola! the Trump-DeSantis Dream Team. Yeah, I know, childish fantasy. But these days hope and fantasy are most of what I have left.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: stablemoney 3/23/2023 1:55:05 PM (No. 1431792)
None of these statements matter. We are at war with Russia, and are losing badly. That is not going to change. Spend it all, and the U.S. will still not win in Ukraine. Russia lives next door, and has fought this type of war many times. They will keep going until the U.S. is bankrupt, and can go no further.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: DVC 3/23/2023 3:56:47 PM (No. 1431893)
No question that Putin is a war criminal.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Pegmo 3/23/2023 4:41:01 PM (No. 1431944)
Not a good look.....not ready for prime time.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: YorkieMom 3/23/2023 5:42:52 PM (No. 1431968)
I’m sure the people who think DeSantis is too young and needs to stay in Florida and wait four years probably said the same thing to Sarah Palin.None of us knows how long we have to live.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: earlybird 3/23/2023 6:14:08 PM (No. 1431978)
Sarah Palin is still very much alive and I imagine DeSantis would be concerned that anyone believed that he might not live long enough to run in 2028.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 3/23/2023 11:00:39 PM (No. 1432130)
It's just not that DeSantis changed his mind on Ukraine, but when a man makes a cheap shot at a political rival when he thinks that person is vulnerable and it'll increase his political ratings, then that shows the measure of the man! Governor Ron DeSantis, I'm sorry, is a little man. His advisers could have told him to say this, but nevertheless, it was thoughtless. Gov. DeSantis could have been a great man and have come to the defense of the man that helped him become governor or defended someone being politically persecuted, but oh no, he had to put down another, to raise himself up. "I don't know anything about giving hush money to a porn star." Do you Ron? You were in the military ( side) and you didn't know anything about prostitutes or anything like that? Did you lead a sheltered life? Are you implying you are better morally than President Trump? Only God can make that determination. Sounds like something that the Pharisees would say.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Adam 3/24/2023 6:02:37 AM (No. 1432241)
There really aren’t any actual contradictions between this interview and the Carlson one. You could argue maybe a different “tone,” but that’s all.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: TCloud 3/24/2023 7:52:37 AM (No. 1432286)
Putin could care less about what anyone in the West says about him and Roosyia! Collective West has Sanctioned the Russians into an alternative universe exclusive of West dominance and is teamed up with China, Indian and other Nations that have nothing to do again with the corrupt Collective West. Meantime, the Rout is on!
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Reply 30 - Posted by: NotaBene 3/24/2023 9:43:15 AM (No. 1432388)
As we enter WW III the war against Russia is the most important issue. Trump is the only one that is willing to end it. With the neocon cabal we will be defeated once again. Trump brings Peace and Prosperity!
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Zigrid 3/24/2023 10:39:01 AM (No. 1432448)
Sanctimonious is dancing all over the page...welcome to the big boy are out of your league fella...let the big man discuss world affairs...President Trump knows how to handle world just step aside and let him do what's right for our country....the three "Rs"...rove and Ryan and romney can't help you...they are all losers....
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Reply 32 - Posted by: mc squared 3/24/2023 1:16:19 PM (No. 1432548)
#3: I live in FL and we were never locked down, although some businesses were closed. We went about our business while the rest of the country were loaded into the cattle stocks.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Jebediah 3/24/2023 4:47:02 PM (No. 1432693)
I SUSPECT what happened is there was a general uproar from people who favored him for the Presidency and he is tap dancing. A real shame. We really did like him.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Jebediah 3/24/2023 4:55:18 PM (No. 1432701)
Have heard a few punsters re: DeSantis's "cheap shot" and have to laugh my tush off: Trump is the KING of the cheap shot.......maybe because he does so so consistently (remember him saying Ted Cruz's father looked like the man in a news film when JFK's killer was shot himself in police custody)--that makes his Low Energy Jeb etal sound decent). Maybe Trump is so horrendous re: cheap shots that people give him a pass? But his CONSTANT cheap shots shots are one of the chief reasons Trump has lost so many loyal voters.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: ChattyCatsSusan 3/24/2023 7:54:55 PM (No. 1432782)
Not fun being caught out on the record is it governor? The world knows what you said, and there isn't any walking back. Stop being a Romney because I can assure you it will cost you bigly in the end.
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