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'This is a very, very bad idea’: Lawmakers
decry IRS plans to force Americans to
submit to face-scanning technology to
be able to access their own taxes

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Posted By: Ribicon, 1/30/2022 6:17:14 PM

The US Treasury said on Friday it is considering alternatives to facial-recognition technology to verify identities for online taxpayer accounts after some lawmakers raised privacy concerns. The $86 million partnership between the Internal Revenue Service and private contractor ID.me, which was announced in November, would be one of the biggest expansions of facial recognition software made by the US government. The measure has been met with criticism from lawmakers, who argue that the software is intrusive and inaccurate. Representative Ted Lieu, a California Democrat, called the move a 'very, very bad idea, ' adding that facial recognition is less accurate with dark skin tones.

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The vendor is located practically within walking distance of their key customers. Guess the Stasi will need to partner with another source to buy video facial scans of ordinary Americans just going about their business. And rest assured that our politicians will have dumped their stock futures in this company nicely in advance of any real announcement. A previous article noted that the vendor was hiring up to 750 new employees to cover the workload in advance of this.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: SALady 1/30/2022 6:26:49 PM (No. 1056077)
I needed to see something on the IRS website the other day, and tried to register. When I got to the "submit video" part, I immediately shut it down. Now they keep sending me e-mails telling me to finish my registration. What is a nice way to say "when Hell freezes over"?!?!?!?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: anniebc 1/30/2022 6:32:07 PM (No. 1056082)
Well, well, well, that racism thing just might help all of us now. Who do these government agencies think they are?
27 people like this.

Reply 3 - Posted by: padiva 1/30/2022 6:51:24 PM (No. 1056111)
Meanwhile, some friend of a politician/govt official got a super huge contract. Successful competition of the project doesn't matter. It's all about a taxpayer-funded payoff to friends.
34 people like this.

Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 1/30/2022 7:01:12 PM (No. 1056121)
NO.
38 people like this.

Reply 5 - Posted by: Faithfully 1/30/2022 7:23:26 PM (No. 1056152)
But... but, how can marginalized minorities...
17 people like this.

Reply 6 - Posted by: sunshinehorses 1/30/2022 7:25:29 PM (No. 1056155)
This is called no way in hell. Next thing will be all government websites - social securiy, student loans, etc will require it.
21 people like this.

Reply 7 - Posted by: Troutgreen 1/30/2022 8:02:20 PM (No. 1056193)
Ok.. just as soon as it's required for voting.
64 people like this.

Reply 8 - Posted by: nwcudagal 1/30/2022 8:08:04 PM (No. 1056195)
A few weeks ago I couldn't sleep (4 a.m.) and decided to work on my taxes. My first task was to double-check my tax deposits for the year so I logged into the IRS website. I was informed that I would have to create a new account and began the process. However, I couldn't get far along in the process because I don't have a webcam. I kept searching for a button to press to let them know I didn't have a webcam to no avail. I was stinking tired and mad as hell. I decided to go through my bank withdrawals to the IRS to confirm my payments and would follow-up on on my account later. A week or so ago I read an article about ID.me suggesting it was somewhat nefarious. Then I read that they are all in with the federal government regarding technology, and now I read this. You would have to be as ancient as me to remember the movie "Enemy of the State", but thinking about what is going on gave me the willies.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: pearlyjo 1/30/2022 8:24:04 PM (No. 1056202)
Well, I hope our lawmakers are more than disturbed about this and do something about it.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: watashiyo 1/30/2022 9:13:38 PM (No. 1056234)
China's doing it. Makes sense when the BiteMe Biden family and the democrats are fully invested with the Chinese government.
15 people like this.

Reply 11 - Posted by: snakeoil 1/30/2022 11:30:34 PM (No. 1056299)
Have facial recognition on my cell phone and laptop. Does it work? Only about 70% of the time. It would probably also recongize Lassie as me. But if I put on my Dr. Fraudski mask the recognition drops to zero. You are supposed to supply all of you faces. So if you get a suntan you might be locked out. Not to go off topic but I watched two football games today. Didn't see anyone wearing a mask. Is the Pandemic over and no one told me?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: CactusStar 1/31/2022 12:31:28 AM (No. 1056323)
If even Ted Lieu thinks it's a bad idea, it's a bad idea.
14 people like this.

Reply 13 - Posted by: usmc0302 1/31/2022 2:47:42 AM (No. 1056355)
100% nightmare to setup I abandoned after numerous attempts.
11 people like this.

Reply 14 - Posted by: Trigger2 1/31/2022 3:21:01 AM (No. 1056369)
Another brain flatulance from Joey. They couldn't stop all the fraud coming from all that free money, so he came up with this solution. My son-in-law filed for NY unemployment. They wanted a scan of himself, his driver's license and even his passport. Then to top it off, they wanted a video. He started yesterday but apparently it takes hours for the video to go through and be analyzed, so the application went into the 2nd day. Leave it to commie run NY. Never leave a penny that demonrats can waste somewhere else.
9 people like this.

Reply 15 - Posted by: homefry 1/31/2022 7:53:09 AM (No. 1056477)
BAD idea for taxes but......Sounds like a very good idea for voting!
18 people like this.

Reply 16 - Posted by: chillijilli 1/31/2022 8:06:54 AM (No. 1056485)
There is a simple solution. Wear a burkha for your IRS face scan.
12 people like this.

Reply 17 - Posted by: bigfatslob 1/31/2022 8:38:21 AM (No. 1056502)
I'll scan George Floyd's mug and send them that.
3 people like this.

Reply 18 - Posted by: franq 1/31/2022 9:00:23 AM (No. 1056523)
Indeed, #16. Burkha or COVID mask. That should put me in good stead.
5 people like this.

Reply 19 - Posted by: Speedypetey 1/31/2022 9:01:15 AM (No. 1056525)
But you won't need ID or a signature to vote? 30% of the adults are exemplary products of public education.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: milwaukeeroad 1/31/2022 9:15:26 AM (No. 1056545)
Can we insist this technology apply as voter identification on election day?
6 people like this.

Reply 21 - Posted by: Strike3 1/31/2022 9:21:32 AM (No. 1056553)
Filing taxes has been relatively simple for a few years due to the online technology but now they want to "enhance" it. Screw them, they're getting paper from now on.
6 people like this.

Reply 22 - Posted by: GustoGrabber 1/31/2022 9:24:53 AM (No. 1056558)
Waiving your fourth amendment protections to engage your own government? Sure, why not? Meet the new boss
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Zigrid 1/31/2022 9:55:27 AM (No. 1056586)
No one will scan my retina because I wear sunglasses everywhere I go...since dark tints cannot be penetrated...there is the solution...and the IRS had better watch their over reach...or perhaps Americans will stop paying them and set up escrow accounts to comply with their obligations....a corruption gooberment cannot function without taxpayer's money....
4 people like this.

Reply 24 - Posted by: marbles 1/31/2022 10:10:05 AM (No. 1056597)
" Every breath you take, every move you make"...............I'll be watching you".
5 people like this.

Reply 25 - Posted by: ChattyCatsSusan 1/31/2022 10:26:02 AM (No. 1056619)
I get that the tax returns are full of juicy information that ID thieves would love to get their grubby mitts on, but haven't these taxpayers every heard of the concept of making copies of what you turn into the IRS or any government agency?
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Reply 26 - Posted by: mc squared 1/31/2022 11:15:35 AM (No. 1056712)
What a way to get EVERYONE's picture stored somewhere in the letter agencies. Go to a political rally, object to a new proposal and whammo - a computer matches your face in the crowd to the face scan you sent the IRS. Genius. Diabolical, but genius.
4 people like this.

Reply 27 - Posted by: TurtleDove 1/31/2022 4:15:38 PM (No. 1057069)
To #1, say it directly, maybe they'll get it. Yea, it'll be a cold day in hell before I do this. Tell me again, why do any conservatives pay taxes when none of us gets any representation???
3 people like this.

Reply 28 - Posted by: NessunDorma 1/31/2022 5:52:57 PM (No. 1057160)
Holy cow, I agree with Ted Lieu. That's a first!
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Reply 29 - Posted by: AVXinPHX1 1/31/2022 7:13:48 PM (No. 1057238)
Don't forget it only takes a few minutes to email your Congressman and Senators. I simply wrote as a subject "ID.me has got to go!" And the body of my text said," The IRS requiring taxpayers to register with ID.me is pure government overreach. Maybe we should require it for voting!" Constituent contacts do mean something, especially in an election year. So go get busy!
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Omen55 1/31/2022 8:22:37 PM (No. 1057280)
I agree with Lieu! Look up in the sky. Pigs are flying!!
0 people like this.

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