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Ivanpah: no such thing as a free lunch

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Posted By: DVC, 5/29/2026 1:19:14 PM

So-called renewable energy has never lived up to its extravagant promise. Windmills are very expensive, hard to service, and produce power only when the wind blows, and solar only when the sun shines, [snip] And then there is the Ivanpah solar plant in the Mojave Desert, an extraordinarily expensive flash-fryer for birds flying into its heat beams, and a futuristic failure. Even the Sierra Club has been forced to admit the thousands of birds and tortoises killed, and the despoiling of the desert ecosystem, are too much. And so was the cost to taxpayers:

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Power tower is inefficient, obsolete and the government flushed $2,200,000,000 down this bird fryer.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: wilarrbie 5/29/2026 1:36:14 PM (No. 2110193)
Hmmm. Well, that didn't work. (shrugs shoulders and walks away.)
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Schnapps 5/29/2026 1:37:24 PM (No. 2110194)
Plenty of free lunches if you're partial to fried eagle or buzzard. Question is, how much money did the owners loose ($zero), and what is their next venture (AI ?)
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Reply 3 - Posted by: mc squared 5/29/2026 2:54:46 PM (No. 2110216)
But next time it will work, so we need more subsidies.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 5/29/2026 2:56:01 PM (No. 2110218)
Thanks for posting. Solyndra received a $535 million loan in tax dollars (which vanished). Ivanpah got $1.6 BILLION from Uncle Sam - the remainder of the $2.2 billion the author cites came from NRG Energy and Google (feel better now?). From Wiki: "NRG declined to say how much of the $1.6 billion loans guaranteed by the government remained unpaid as of 2025." The concept of using concentrated sunlight to superheat steam to 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit sounds good and looks efficient on paper but proved to be one of the most expensive ways to generate electricity ever devised. And although PG&E wants to terminate its purchasing contract and the consensus among everyone who's gotten wise is to shut the whole thing down, the California Public Utilities Commission has ordered that it stay on line and PG&E keep buying that expensive power. Why? Because 1) it's renewable, and the state has mandates for amounts of electricity from renewable resources and 2) shutting it down would impact supply to the state's already-strained grid. If nothing else, this monstrosity is impressive to look at on your way to Vegas. It's hard to describe what the reflected energy off all those mirrors looks like as it becomes concentrated near the towers, but you can actually see the plasma effect from the heat. Nothing that wandered into its path would stand a chance.
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