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A Review of Satirist Juvenal in This Mad,
Mad World

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Posted By: DW626, 10/15/2023 10:27:26 AM

have often noted here the difficulty our progressive and enlightened age poses for the art of satire. Satire depends on some palpable distance between common reality and the thing satirized. “Ha!,” we say, we feel viscerally, when confronted by effective satire, “that exaggeration, that caricature, that satire dramatizes a dangerous tendency in our culture. Of course, no one really tries to extract cucumbers from sunbeams, as Swift suggests in his great satire Gulliver’s Travels, but the idea that they might shows you how absurd so much academic culture is.” But what if it turned out people really did try to distill cucumbers from sunbeams? What then?

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Reply 1 - Posted by: wilarrbie 10/15/2023 10:56:51 AM (No. 1577825)
It’s a bit embarrassing how much history I don’t know (but here, I learned a little more), and that I thought Juvenal was probably a rap artist.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: mean Gene 10/15/2023 2:08:53 PM (No. 1577943)
I think Juvenal had the same problem in falling Rome as today's Onion and Babylon Bee have: trying to stay ahead of the real (and absurd) headlines.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: WWIIDaughter 10/15/2023 2:29:03 PM (No. 1577960)
As an art lover, I admire Roger Kimball above all critics. Art is the first indication of truly human intellect. and distinction from animals. Even apes can use "tools" like sticks to get at food. No animal ever has been capable of art, such as the earlies paintings (Lascaux, France, @ 12,000B.C. and horses (Spain and France), @30,000 B.C. Please get one of Kimball's books. "The Rape of the Masters " will open minds and eyes. And-most important, "Experiments Against Reality." The latter (pub. 2000) is a virtual guidebook on where we started and how we got to calling men "women" and doctors legally sexually mutilating children.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Heraclitus 10/15/2023 4:45:58 PM (No. 1578021)
#3, I, too, am a daughter of a WWII veteran. He went to Boston Latin where he and a few of his buddies studied to learn their Latin well so they could sneak up into the library stacks and read the forbidden "dirty" pornographic works of the Roman poets! What a funny way to get the boys to study their Latin! (wink wink) Thanks so much for posting this, OP. Delightful reading in these dangerous times
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