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Supreme Court Rules IRS Can Secretly Grab
Bank Records of Outside Parties

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Posted By: tisHimself, 5/21/2023 5:36:14 AM

The Supreme Court has ruled unanimously in a delinquent taxpayer case that it is lawful for the IRS to secretly summons the bank records of third parties. In other words, the nation’s highest court recognized that the Internal Revenue Service is not required to notify third parties who are not under investigation when seeking a summons for banking records thought to be relevant to the tax delinquency of another person. One lawyer who briefed the Supreme Court said the new ruling gives the IRS “startlingly broad authority to pry into the financial records of people who may be only remotely connected to a delinquent taxpayer.”

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Reply 1 - Posted by: judy 5/21/2023 6:22:20 AM (No. 1474210)
Does this mean the Biden family records are now accessible???
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 5/21/2023 6:23:57 AM (No. 1474212)
#1, it means everyone BUT them.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 5/21/2023 7:23:58 AM (No. 1474234)
FTA —- Democrats say the IRS has long been underfunded, but Republicans say the extra money (for 87,000 new agents) will be used to harass taxpayers. Correction, the extra money will be used to harass Republicans. The IRS has a reputation for targeting Republicans. This court ruling apparently provides a carte blanche.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: chumley 5/21/2023 7:29:57 AM (No. 1474239)
Is there any agency that exists for the good of the citizens? Or do they all exist merely for the good of the government? The two are not the same.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: spacer 5/21/2023 8:25:04 AM (No. 1474277)
Unanimous??? This is just so wrong.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog 5/21/2023 8:32:21 AM (No. 1474279)
The Courts pretend to protect rights and observe due process but when the time comes to pay for their BMWs and summer homes no dime is safe from their grasping hands right down to 'court costs' for persons found not guilty. Government is government.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Sanchin 5/21/2023 9:59:45 AM (No. 1474339)
And so many still believe we are free individuals, and the United States is the grantor and protector of individual rights.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: DVC 5/21/2023 10:57:19 AM (No. 1474384)
Unanimously? Frankly that is chilling.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Starboard_side 5/21/2023 11:04:10 AM (No. 1474392)
FTA: “Given the breadth of this power, Congress has imposed certain safeguards” and generally has to give notice of the summons to any person identified in the summons, who is then entitled to bring a motion to quash the summons. But notice does not have to be provided if the summons is issued in aid of the collection of an assessment made or judgment rendered. “In other words, the IRS may issue summonses both to determine whether a taxpayer owes money and later to collect any outstanding liability. When the IRS conducts an investigation for the purpose of ‘determining the liability’ of a taxpayer … it must provide notice … But once the Service has reached the stage of ‘collecting any such liability,’ … —which is a distinct activity—notice may not be required.” So, very clear that it's after they've had the investigation and reached the stage of collecting.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Citoyen 5/21/2023 11:34:51 AM (No. 1474428)
While this article, at least for me, didn’t clear up which law or laws authorized this action, I can well believe that Congress could, in its sloppiness, write such a statute. I don’t blame the court for upholding a duly passed law. The blame falls on the Congress. The Republicans should vow to fix this outrage.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: cold porridge 5/21/2023 11:44:04 AM (No. 1474436)
Time to abolish the IRS along with the FIB and C_A
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Reply 12 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 5/21/2023 2:04:18 PM (No. 1474532)
The article states - "That ruling raises serious Fourth Amendment concerns. Thankfully, the Court stressed that its ruling was narrowly focused on the statutory question before it. In a future case, the Court should address the constitutional limits on the government’s power to demand access to people’s most sensitive financial information.” The last sentence appears to undermine the SC own decision!! This decision also has the power to destroy people's lives and livelihoods in the process. It could take a decade or never for the SC to take or make a decision on behalf of a defendant. Anyone who has ever done business with another person/business is now subject to the whims of the IRS. Tell me this isn't going to be abused. Talk about guilt by association. Should we all consult a lawyer prior to making a financial transaction, be it large or small??
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Reply 13 - Posted by: little guy 5/22/2023 10:34:31 AM (No. 1475018)
We're in East Germany now --- circa 1968 --- and about 75% of us still don't get it.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 5/22/2023 11:14:36 AM (No. 1475040)
I'm assuming the IRS already accessed the Supreme Court Justices' bank accounts and used the info gathered to force them to make this unconstitutional decision.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Zigrid 5/22/2023 12:06:01 PM (No. 1475088)
Very confusing ruling...I don't understand how the Supremes ruled...as for bank records...who cares...I've moved my funds and the IRS or Morgan Stanley will never find them.....it's always about taking control over your lives folks....take one day at a time...and protect yourselves with every move....
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Reply 16 - Posted by: danu 5/22/2023 4:51:40 PM (No. 1475229)
crackpipe crackpipe who's got the crackpipe?
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Reply 17 - Posted by: ChattyCatsSusan 5/22/2023 8:52:56 PM (No. 1475381)
So they are throwing several amendments out of the window now? How about privacy Justices? Where do you all stand on that? Search and Seizure and then trying to prove you are innocent goes against every single tenet of our legal system and the constitution as well. This is just evil incarnate from the DOJ who are probably frothing at the mouth to start using this.
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