Californian Learns Brutal Lesson About
EVs After Stranded Truck Is Hauled Away
in Wyoming: Report

He should have just flown it in a private jet like John Kerry or in a helicopter like Dementia Joe does when he only has to travel 70 miles to Camp David for the weekend.

Traversing Wyoming mountain passes ain't like cruisin' the Pacific Coast Highway. "kilovolts" - classic!

Guess what? Joey doesn't care nor do his enabling demonrats.

I can understand a hybrid, but the environ"mental" woke crowd so hate gas it seems it's all EV or nothing. This is what you get with the liberal half brained usurping leadership and driving opinions. Libs aren't much on sense.

Lived in Montana for 33 years. Minus 40, minus 60 degree temps plus a few feet of snow are the norm. We had a Honda Civic Hybrid when I worked for the state that died every time we went below zero, so you know a total EV will be lucky to make it down the block in those conditions. 90-100 mile operating range doesn't get it out there plus, you may not have cell service depending on where you are. Gas and diesel are king.

Is there one or what's the best towing service to invest in? Looks like a good opportunity.

The real biz op here is towable lo temp generators with a CCS adapter

I watched the video that accompanies this article. They compared the Rivian and Ford Lightening. They spoke about the reliability of the charging stations and encountered one station that had a car parked in the EV charging station not being charged. I think about being a sitting duck while waiting for a charge. They said sometimes you have to wait hours to get the chance to charge. No thank you. They got maybe 200 miles per charge but weather conditions had an impact and it decreased, they only went 55 mph and kept the ac at 72. I'm not sold on an EV. When I fill up my Acura I have a 500 mile range and I can average 75mph

Just how foolish would you feel if you had just bought a $90K pickup truck and it wouldn't run? I'll never know the feeling.

It's like the East Germans and their plastic "Trabants". They wanted them to be motor vehicles, but they just couldn't get there.

People who have been indoctrinated with a leftist mindset have some rather strange beliefs, like the theory that release of CO2 is damaging the planet. A small amount of research can demonstrate that they have been misled. There are many people who offer well supported arguments against the AGW hoax and I could post links to some very good discussions that challenge that hoax. However most of those who have been deceived have too much intellectual investment in that belief system to admit they have taken a false path. However if you put a large fuel tank and generator on a truck or a trailer you will probably find you can generate a good business model out of helping stranded EV drivers. Be sure to take care, however, to avoid getting burned if a lithium battery happens to ignite in your vicinity.

You just can't fix stupid...hmmm, the thought just hit me and I wonder if Bitemes 'Beast' is electric??? Nope, don't think so....good for thee but not for me....Bitemes motto...

Waiting for our Californian commenter to weigh in on how great EVs are and how these stories are all bunk. The current designs of EVs have a limited range, are adversely affected by cold, require pre-planning for trips to ensure you have charging/lodging choices along your route, and are not environmentally friendly (either on the front end with mining for materials or on the back end with battery disposal). Also, they were never intended for the masses - there aren't enough resources to manufacture the number of cars to replace the existing fleet of ICE vehicles, and the current state of our grid/generating capabilities can't supply the power to handle the load. You'll ride public transportation and like it. They're fine for day trips to the beach in a warm climate though... greyseal

From my gas powered driver's seat I see an upside in this. By 2030 there will be a lot less traffic on the road.

There was a story published last fall about a guy who drove his Nissan Leaf from Cheyenne to Casper —- a 175 mile trip up I-25. He was on the road 15 hours. In the next attempt, he used his local knowledge to reduce the ride time to 11 hours.

I am an auto broker, and I have told my clients that EVs are a limited purpose vehicle. They are a possible commuter car, or urban service vehicle, but they simply are not capable of being an everyday, all around vehicle. As a $30,000 purchase, they may make sense for some, but real world pricing is $50,000 and up. Insane. I do like Hybrids now that they have become more developed technology-wise. My next truck will likely be a Hybrid.

This might be the reason why the Rivian company is on the financial "rocks." As this poor consumer discovered, calculating the effective range of an EV is quite challenging and is based upon many factors, most of which one has little control over, such as outside temperature and road conditions. Personally, I don't much care to be telling some on-board computer where I'm going in order to receive back the vehicle's "range report" telling me if I need another 20 minutes of charge. As the owners of Studebakers found out in the early 1960's, never buy a car from a company near bankruptcy. "Chapter" tends to disrupt the "supply chain."

Meant "Chapter 11" above.

EVs are still like those children's Barbie-Mobiles, or the GIJoe jeeps. Lots of fun, provided you stay in your own yard.

NOT a fan of boutique transportation. Give me an internal combustion engine any day.

Why did he only charge it to 120 miles? When I pull off an interstate to fuel up, I fill the tank. I guess filling a tank takes a few minutes, going to half charge might take an hour or two, but going to near full charge might take 10 hours or more. Charging a battery is not linear, it's exponential and charging time is controlled by many factors. It is tough traveling when your fueling time is the major component of your total travel time.

We all forget that EVs are not to 'save the planet', but to keep us close to 'Urbana' and unable commute to the Burbs where life is peaceful and safe. Tax Revenue for failing blue cities.

I don't think Joe Biden and the entire Democratic Party care, and of course, the CCP sure as heck doesn't care.

Idiots do the stupidest things. I first saw one of these Rivian things a few years ago in Colorado. It obviously wasn't any kind of a standard vehicle, so I looked it up later, found it was a nearly zero production EV, got a chuckle out of it. I saw another one yesterday, second one EVER, and I'm a 'car guy' and generally notice unusual vehicles. EVs can be used in cities for short drives. They are hopeless for cross country travel. Having traveled across Wyoming many dozens of times in the last 50 years, there are places where even gas stations are relatively scarce. Only the very dim would try an EV there.

Re #21. You are on the right track. Batteries can accept a charging rate which is limited by their current state of charge. This is a crucial concept, and is NOT something that most are aware of, even now. If you have a battery that is 20% charged, it can take a high charging rate without overheating and being damaged (or catching fire in the case of a lithium battery). A 75% charged battery can accept much lower charging rate without overheating, being damaged and perhaps catching fire. So, an example may make it clear. For a lead-acid battery charging should be 1/10th of the amount out of the battery. Apparently lithium batteries can accept a high percentage, I estimate that it is 1/4th of the amount of charge out of the battery. Here's how charging works, NOT like people think. So, with 20% charge in the battery, 80% discharged, we can charge at 1/4th of 80%. We start at 20% per hour charge rate. After the first hour of charging, we have increased 20% + 20% = 40% charge level, 60% left to go, 1/4th of 60% is 15% per hour new charge rate. After the second hour of charging we are at 40% + 15% = 55% charge, with 45% left to go, so the new charge rate is now 1/4th of 45% or about 11% per hour. After the third hour the battery is at 66% charge, 33% left to go, so the new charge rate is now 1/4th of 33%, or about 8% per hour. You can see this, here's the short form. I also put it in terms of "miles", and miles gained. I'll be generous in assuming that the claimed range is accurate....usually that is much exaggerated. They claim 200 mile range. time -- charge level --- range -- range gain start = 20% = 40 miles range 1 hr = 40% = 80 miles range, gained 40 miles 2 = 55% = 110 miles, gained 30 miles 3 = 66% = 132 miles, gained 22 miles 4 = 74% = 148 miles, gained 16 miles 5 = 80% = 160 miles, gained 12 miles 6 = 85% = 170 miles, gained 10 miles 7 = 88.75% = 177.5 miles, gained 7.5 miles 8 = 92% = 184 miles, gained 6.5 mile 9 = 94% = 188 miles, gained 4 miles 10 = 95.5% = 191 miles, gained 3 miles 11 = 96.5% = 193 miles, gained 2 miles You can see why people do not fully charge their EVs when traveling, ONLY at night. The first hour gained 40 miles, the 8th hour gained 6.5 miles.....and it gets worse as the battery charges up. EVs suck in many ways that people can't even imagine.