Why the 20 percent tip could be on the
endangered list
New York Post,
by
Jeanette Settembre
Original Article
Posted By: Black Conservative Voice,
11/22/2022 6:26:49 AM
Inflation might be turning Americans into grinches this holiday season, new data suggests.
In a survey of 1,000 consumers and 165 restaurant owners and operators across the US this month, just 43% of consumers are now tipping their servers 20% or more, a significant decline from 56% of customers last year. That’s according to a recent survey from restaurant technology company Popmenu, first reported by MarketWatch.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
mifla 11/22/2022 6:43:04 AM (No. 1339685)
Given the shortage of workers, perhaps tipping is lower due to service delays, incorrect orders, and cold food.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
BeatleJeff 11/22/2022 6:51:46 AM (No. 1339688)
Never understood this automatic 20% tip thing. My policy has always been to start at 15% then go up or down from there depending on the quality of service received. But then, I'm an accountant and I can do math in my head.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
PChristopher 11/22/2022 7:01:01 AM (No. 1339692)
It's only been in recent years that businesses put out a tip jar for counter service, like at a sandwich shop. Some places have a 'suggrsted' tip on their computerized systems that you pay with ehyile they stand there and guilt you into tipping. Through most of my adult years, it was generally understood that table service got tipped, counter service didn't. I don't know how things changed.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Rand Al'Thor 11/22/2022 7:02:13 AM (No. 1339693)
I still tip 20% but this trend is understandable when these restaurant workers are being paid $15 plus per hour and not the minimum wage the tip was supposed to make up for.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
fordtran 11/22/2022 7:09:23 AM (No. 1339698)
We dined at a newly opened fast food restaurant recently. After placing the order, we were shown the total for our meal and presented with a computer screen asking if we would like to add a 10, 15 or 20 percent tip to the total before any service had been rendered. It seemed a little pushy to ask for a tip up front when the only actual service was delivering food to the table. I doubt we will be going back.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
philsner 11/22/2022 7:43:43 AM (No. 1339724)
When I am my server, no tip is necessary.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Cindiana 11/22/2022 8:01:27 AM (No. 1339737)
Tip jars are showing up everywhere. One example:
Why should I tip the supermarket checkout clerk now that I bag my own items? They can't or won't touch the bags that I by law must now bring in?
I should make a tip jar and put it in their face as I'm bagging!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
bpl40 11/22/2022 8:04:25 AM (No. 1339739)
I do 15% AFTER subtracting tax and alcohol. Take it or lump it.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Clinger 11/22/2022 8:12:49 AM (No. 1339745)
I'm doing the opposite. We are less likely to go out for a pricey meal and more prone to go to the local breakfast and lunch place where the bill isn't more than $50 for the two of us. Then I tip a minimum of $10 regardless of the bill which us usually about $40. We get great service and food. We struggled to get where we are, we will struggle again in the not too distant future, but right now we're in a position to help others a little.
I also have no tolerance for the tip calculators that include tax as part of the basis for calculating the tip. If I tip more than 15% or 20% I want it known that's because I chose to, not because I'm too blanking stupid and mathematically challenged to catch their little gamesmanship.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
msjena 11/22/2022 8:14:41 AM (No. 1339747)
Tip jars are mostly at places where there are minimum wage workers--often students or young people. I am happy to tip at these places and try to carry some dollar bills for that purpose. At restaurants, I tip 20%.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
stablemoney 11/22/2022 8:18:04 AM (No. 1339752)
Worse, I have stopped eating at restaurants.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Bluefindad 11/22/2022 8:46:58 AM (No. 1339782)
On a recent trip, we stopped for lunch at a restaurant in . The menu said that they automatically add 18% to the tab for tip, but if you wished, you could add more. It even said that if you object to the automatic tip, you're welcome to dine elsewhere. Won't be going there again!
Otherwise, we're dining out less often. Servers and people at counters hand over their tablets with a suggested tip amount and watch while you render your offering. Makes me uncomfortable, but not intimidated. There's even one sushi restaurant we go to that features BOGO. At their prices we wouldn't go if didn't offer it. However, when they switched to tablet paying, the suggested tip amount was based on the non-BOGO price, resulting in a tip amount that was 40% of the tab! Needless to say, we put in a 'custom' amount. Admittedly, the overall effect is to make us more reluctant to eat out.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Rama41 11/22/2022 8:47:15 AM (No. 1339784)
Since the pandemic, we regularly patronize four small family restaurants for breakfast. They are all short staffed and over-worked, thanks to Biden's overgenerous unemployment-plus policy. We always overtip. But I resent the larger places with electronic tablets pushed in your face with automatic tipping options starting at 20%. No wonder patrons are rebelling.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Venturer 11/22/2022 9:03:46 AM (No. 1339804)
The price of the food is higher making the 20% higher
at the same time the consumer has less money to spend.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
RWPollock 11/22/2022 9:14:29 AM (No. 1339813)
The cost at restaurants has gone way up. With a 20% tip, a dinner for two turns into a dinner for 3!
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
TexaTucky 11/22/2022 9:16:44 AM (No. 1339816)
Like some others here, I only tip when table service is provided. 20% has always been my norm even back when 15% was The Norm because A) I've worked in restaurants and B) generosity redounds to those who practice it.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
bogeegolf 11/22/2022 9:22:29 AM (No. 1339821)
Since all the restaurants still have help wanted signs out ,it seems, I always tip 20% or more. I just as soon pay people that actually work. We don’t eat out much though. Also in our town you will probably come across a beggar on the way to the restaurant. Yes we are a democrat controlled town.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 11/22/2022 9:25:23 AM (No. 1339826)
We don't eat out much, but have always tipped 20% or more when we do. What we've discovered is that the quality of the food has gone down - frequently tepid instead of hot, smaller servings, cheaper sides and so on. Slower service is a given. As a result, we eat out even less than we did before.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
cor-vet 11/22/2022 9:32:38 AM (No. 1339838)
For us, it's 15% to 18% and it's based on the service.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
WV.Hillbilly 11/22/2022 9:43:28 AM (No. 1339849)
The 20% tip was never on my list. That's just happened in the fast few years.And it was mostly promoted by waiters and the others in the restaurant business. And makes it easier for morons to figure out what to tip.
15% before any sales tax has always been my standard unless the service is exceptional.
You get no tip if you hand me food from behind a counter.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Sanchin 11/22/2022 9:43:36 AM (No. 1339850)
The trend over the past couple of years is that service, be it in the restaurant industry or any other service oriented industry, has been rapidly declining on the whole. When we eat out (often), the expectation that I am going to give you 20% for poor service and sour attitude on top of lower quality of food and inconsistency is laughable. The sad thing is the restaurant industry is being squeezed to the point where most establishments will go out of business. Everyday this country resembles more and more a third world hellhole in comparison to what it was a few short years ago.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 11/22/2022 10:02:55 AM (No. 1339876)
This is similar to the "insurance will pay for it" crowd after buildings and cars are looted and burned. Insurance will pay for it ... until they don't. Strapped customers will pay tips ... until they don't. And when restaurants increase their prices on food items to make up for it, customers stop coming.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
idahoskook 11/22/2022 10:05:34 AM (No. 1339880)
Back in the 70’s my grandfather and his good friend would go out for dinner with their wives. Mr. Moyer would hand the server 1/2 of a $50 bill that he had just torn in half, in front of the server. “ here,……if you do a good job, you get the other half when we leave.” Point is. They were willing to tip well, but you were going to earn it.
$50 in 1973 was a big tip for a dinner for 4. And my grandmother and Mrs. Moyer didn’t drink alcohol.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Kate318 11/22/2022 10:24:46 AM (No. 1339906)
Having worked my share of service jobs, I schooled one girl working at a drive through about tipping. She had given me a $5 bill as change, and I told her she was much more likely to get a tip if she broke that $5 into five $1 bills. She looked at me as though I had just given her the Holy Grail. The next time I drove through, that’s exactly what she did. Who says these kids can’t learn?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
clayusmcret 11/22/2022 10:39:32 AM (No. 1339919)
I ate at a restaurant last week. When the ticket came instead of the normal 15/18/20% tip recommendations, it had 20/23/25% recommendations. Sorry - the meal was good, but not great and no one offered me or my wife under-the-table sex.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Safari Man 11/22/2022 10:52:38 AM (No. 1339941)
I have raised my tip to 100%, but I only go out to eat 0 times per year.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Sully 11/22/2022 10:56:29 AM (No. 1339947)
I always give at least 20% bc I Overtip. Bc I put myself thru 2 schools working in restaurants and feel like it.
But unless you're making my coffee or scooping me ice cream I don't put anything in those stupid jars.
I don't tip you just for ringing me up. And if your not making tip wages you have a nerve for asking.
Get real Xers
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 11/22/2022 11:17:10 AM (No. 1339968)
Worked at restaurants in college. Always tip 20% and am happy to do so!
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 11/22/2022 11:56:54 AM (No. 1340015)
Since the fake pandemic our lifestyle has changed tremendously. We don't eat out much anymore definately no fast food which is expensive garbage. We quarantined and learned to live like that being on fixed incomes we do everything from. We have two friends that own nice restaurants so when we leave home to eat out that's our choices. We tip very well to support them so they can stay in business. We are over generous with our tipping. One of these places we don't include the tip on the ticket paying cash to the server. I dislike a tip jar that's shared with the dishwashers and divided up that's the reason we do this.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
PIApilot 11/22/2022 1:19:27 PM (No. 1340094)
It depends on the server. A good server gets 20% plus. Many don't seem to understand the term "service". I love the small town diner type places with the waitress that still calls everyone "hon" or "sweetie" or "darlin" and keeps the coffee cups filled. Those are the ones who get the biggest tips from me.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
judy 11/22/2022 4:23:35 PM (No. 1340226)
My husband & I always tip more than 20% ...we never regretted it!!! It's the least we can do. At least they are working!!! Some choose to stay home! I feel for food severs I always say if it was me I would probably be fired the 1st day. I would probably spill food over everyone!!!
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