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The New Climate of Panic Among the Panic-Mongers

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Posted By: DVC, 12/31/2021 8:46:17 PM

A new climate panic is gripping the far-Left profiteers of doom. Those few of Them who are climate scientists have made fame and fortune by telling us the world is toast unless the once-free West (though responsible for only a fifth of the world’s sins of emission) commits economic hara-kiri. The cost of placating climate Communism is already in the quadrillions. However, They are becoming aware that Their official climate narrative is rooted in a grave error of physics – an error so elementary that it can be described here. At a vital point in Their calculation of how much warming we may cause, They forgot the Sun was shining.

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Someone has gone back to former NASA climate fanatic James Hansen's original "work" and checked it closely.
Guess what? Hansen blew it, made a fundamental error in calculating the "feedback factor". Hansen said that the temp increase calculated for CO2 would be 1 degree C. Then he applied the erronious "feedback factor" of 4, claiming a 4 C warming was coming...7.2F.
The correct calculation gives a feedback factor of 1.09, not 4. So even if the 1C warming happens....and even if the 'feedback' happens....it is less than 2F increase. Not worth mentioning, frankly.
And they have NO answer for this fundamental error in their 'root' calculations.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird 12/31/2021 8:55:54 PM (No. 1024731)
Extremely interesting. Those who read to the end will find Viscount’s bio, also quite interesting. He must drive Charles and William and Harry nuts.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 12/31/2021 8:56:19 PM (No. 1024732)
For non-tech folks, his "degrees K" is probably confusing. Our ordinary American temperature scale is Fahrenheit, which has 32F as the freezing point of water. The European temp scale is Centigrade, with freezing point of water as 0 C. For physics, these 'relative temperature scales' are not workable. The temperature scale for physics is Kelvin, where zero is "absolute zero", where all molecular motion stops, all heat is GONE. All real physics needs to be referenced to absolute zero, so we use the Kelvin scale. That's what his "degrees K" is all about. 70F = 21C = 294K So....when calculating actual thermodynamic changes....it is crucial to use ABSOLUTE temperature, not the relative temperature that we use in our daily lives. Hope that helps a little bit. This IS a big deal. It points out a fundamental physics mistake which blows a real hole in their fundamental physics arguments the size of the the Astrodome.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: DVC 12/31/2021 9:08:17 PM (No. 1024738)
The error that Hansen made is the kind that gets a first year physics student an red X on one of his quiz problems....because he calculated a ration based on RELATIVE temperature scale, not ABSOLUTE temperature scale. Hansen committed a literal intro student blunder. Extremely embarrassing and cannot be papered over. Their whole house of cards has depended on their "feedback factor"....which is now shown to be incompetently calculated. Shows up Hansen for the fool that he is.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Urgent Fury 12/31/2021 9:09:35 PM (No. 1024739)
Aren't people tired of the media scaring them?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Omen55 12/31/2021 9:12:01 PM (No. 1024742)
Facts can be terrifying to dem.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 12/31/2021 9:14:33 PM (No. 1024743)
typo in #3.....RATIO, not 'ration'. Temperature ratios need to use absolute temperature, not relative. Huge error by Hansen.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 12/31/2021 9:30:07 PM (No. 1024750)
The thing I’m most afraid of? Natural causes! Seems to kill everyone that catches it! Let’s spend a Pendatrillion fixing natural causes! I’ll take 10% for being the discoverer of the epidemic! Thanks!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: snakeoil 12/31/2021 10:20:45 PM (No. 1024768)
Who's going to tell Greta? One problem with using classical feedback control systems theory to model the climate is the climate is not a linear system. Plus the climate researchers have a vested interest in the outcome of their research. If your bread is being buttered by research in the effect of gamma rays on man-in-the-moon marigolds, then you will conclude that the effect is catastrophic and merits further research (money). And the way to quench heretics is to classify them as Anti Science.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Zeek Wolfe 1/1/2022 12:31:58 AM (No. 1024834)
What really bothers me is that just about everything has to be viewed from a political perspective. A friend of mine living in Arizona suggested to me that no matter how much rain and snow might collect in the Colorado River catch basin and watershed, Lake Mead will not be allowed to refill because a full lake does not fit the global warming template of the environental wackos and the Democrat Party. She heard this rumor in Flagstaff and from another hotel guest in Las Vegas when she was there over a weekend.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: NotaBene 1/1/2022 2:44:23 AM (No. 1024864)
Thank you DVC for educating us at Lucianne. We have many talented people in this Salon.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: JimBob 1/1/2022 7:50:19 AM (No. 1024986)
I would wager that Hansen's 'mistake' was deliberate. Hey, he got away with it for what.....30 years? 40 years? We have a whole system of bureaucracies and additional Federal government control over any of our activity related to energy, climate, or the environment. The entire leftist Media is firmly on board. We have an entire generation.... or two... that have been bombarded with this filth their entire lives. Can they be persuaded that the truth is otherwise? As Mark Twain once said, "It is easier to Fool a man than to convince him that he as been Fooled." At this point, will broadcasting the Truth even make a difference? How many will hear it, in the present Media/online 'Cancel' (that is, BULLY) culture?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: NamVet70 1/1/2022 8:03:19 AM (No. 1024995)
Lord Monckton finally gets his revenge! Their math is wrong and they know it now. They have been cheating on all their reports of measured "global warming" and now their models are all shown to be wrong.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: F15 Gork 1/1/2022 8:43:12 AM (No. 1025030)
If you want to see stupid, watch that TV ad where the heavily subsidized electric care pulls up and plugs in to a desert home where the clown of the house is busy blowing a foot of snow onto his house and property. These people really do believe in unicorns and magic beans.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: franq 1/1/2022 8:53:03 AM (No. 1025041)
What is the ideal temperature of the earth, and when did it occur?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Lawsy0 1/1/2022 9:20:39 AM (No. 1025085)
Well I read it all the way to the end, and I should get at least an IQ uptick. But what I really need to know is, ''Is it gonna rain?''
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Reply 16 - Posted by: czechlist 1/1/2022 10:15:37 AM (No. 1025149)
It was warmer before the little ice age than the present. What caused the cooling and what caused it to end? Why did the warming begin well before the industrial revolution began in earnest? Occam's Razor - perhaps that bright thing in the sky has something to do with it? Then our position in the galaxy is constantly changing (increasing Cosmic rays?) . Our magnetic field is weakening and we could see a pole shift at any time. There are hundreds of variables and we feeble mortals cannot control any of them. We can only mitigate.
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