It's unlikely America will reach
herd immunity, experts warn
The Week,
by
Brendan Morrow
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
5/3/2021 1:56:57 PM
When will the United States reach herd immunity to COVID-19? Experts now say it might not — but that doesn't mean the virus has to remain a "society disrupter." That's according to a new report in The New York Times, which says there is now a "widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts" that in the U.S., the "herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever." (Snip) These experts think that COVID-19 may continue circulating in the United States for years, the Times reports, but that vaccines can help turn it
Based on the last couple of years, in particular, can the NY Times be considered a reliable news source or reference?
My guess, the democrats need to keep some sort of "urgency" about this virus going so they can maintain the previous emergency voting rules they installed for the 2022 election.
Saw in the news last night that Hispanics are only getting vaccinated at around 35-40% in California, which is the largest demographic group in that State.
Keep in mind, the virus of 1918 lasted about 2 years, and things went back to normal.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Knotwyrkin 5/3/2021 2:08:56 PM (No. 774267)
Sure, now that Dr. Biden and Joey are in charge, it isn't easy to manage and it may be with us forever.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
ThreeBadCats3 5/3/2021 2:10:10 PM (No. 774268)
With all the experts, both actual (few( and self-proclaimed (innumerable) bestowing their polar differing opinions, only time will tell. If the “vaccine(s)” had never been devised, perhaps this virus would have run its course and allowed the development of “herd immunity”. We may as well argue about how many angels can stand on the head of a pin.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
chance_232 5/3/2021 2:11:01 PM (No. 774269)
You can just imagine democrat glee at the prospect of longer lock downs, forced social distancing and face diaper wearing mandates. If they can stretch this through November 2022, they can demand 2020 style mail in ballots and steal more elections.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
earlybird 5/3/2021 2:13:01 PM (No. 774270)
From what this amateur understands of the nature of this medical injectable, it is not a vaccine. The likelihood that it will prevent infection is slim. It seems to me that it could lessen the severity of an “attack” by the Covid virus.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
bad-hair 5/3/2021 2:19:07 PM (No. 774276)
Just another 6 years or so of masks to flatten that curve. SARCOFF
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
deerejon 5/3/2021 2:25:02 PM (No. 774280)
Social Distancing and mask wearing forever.How far can the goal post be pushed.No one knows.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
justavoter 5/3/2021 2:31:02 PM (No. 774285)
Evidence is coming out that this is a fecal aerosol spread (not to be confused with a common flatulation). Wonder why the Chinese were/are doing annul swabs? Masking useless. 80% of the population will be little effected and it would be better to have the old fashioned chicken pox parties to get this over with if we want herd immunity. My prediction: The next mutation that China will turn loose on the world will kill off at least 20% of the people that have taken the vaccination. And guess who will get the blame?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
AltaD 5/3/2021 2:31:44 PM (No. 774287)
No, we won't reach herd immunity if they continue to exclude people who've had and recovered from covid from their calculations.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
tsquare 5/3/2021 2:34:48 PM (No. 774288)
Time to grow up. Set a vax schedule for all comers. July 1, remove all restrictions. Those who have refused vaccinations might get sick, might die. Why do I have to wear a diaper for their fears? Those who are too hampered to survive shots need to stay sheltered…as they will have to under all realistic future scenarios.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
SALady 5/3/2021 2:41:05 PM (No. 774292)
Demon-Rats need to keep this a high priority through the mid-term elections. After that, it will have used up it's political capital and can then disappear (thanks to the "great leadership of President Biden" of course).
In Texas and Florida, we have already proven that this is a joke and people need to get back to living their lives. Actually, the BLM and Antifa rioters last year proved it was a joke, since they didn't wear masks or practice distancing as they looted, rioted, and burned all those Demon-Rat run cities -- without any major outbreaks of Covid!!!
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Well no... We surrendered our liberty a year ago... Did you think you were going to get them back... Let me speak in a language you'll understand... Baaaa... Baaaa... Baaaa....
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
columba 5/3/2021 2:47:02 PM (No. 774295)
The New York Times is unreliable.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
daisey 5/3/2021 3:00:06 PM (No. 774303)
As long as the gov. can milk this Covid thing, they can deny permits for rallies, and any other conservative gathering. It’s about control. And the highest paid player in D.C., Ant’ny Fauci, is running the show. Only in our nations capitol could a man who has been wrong on so many things, so many times, be revered and definitely overcompensated. And get his mug on People Magazine cover. That one made me retch.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
WV.Hillbilly 5/3/2021 3:06:37 PM (No. 774309)
Have we reached herd immunity with the common cold (another corona virus)? The flu?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 5/3/2021 3:06:38 PM (No. 774310)
Faucci the Moron ridicules herd immunity. It is a wonder he is allowed to walk alone. The effort the eradicate small pox counted on herd immunity. The entire population of the planet wasn't vaccinated. Rather, a geographically calculated effort to create herd immunity by immunizing pockets of people stopped the virus in its tracks. Small pox is now relegated to high level laboratories and exists nowhere in the wild. But, Faucci denies that with his derision and arrogance.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
DVC 5/3/2021 3:07:50 PM (No. 774312)
Bull. We are already there in eastern KS, and likely so in most of the rest of the country.
"Experts" LIE.
They are desperate for you to get their 'magic shot'. WHY so insistent? Never, EVER before was the government pushing a "vaccination" so hard like this, especially for something that has a 99+% survival rate.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw 5/3/2021 3:09:48 PM (No. 774314)
Must be why they are importing millions of illegals just to make sure we don't.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
JayD 5/3/2021 3:10:30 PM (No. 774315)
I sincerely hope that herd immunity to the NYT is still attainable.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
john56 5/3/2021 3:14:10 PM (No. 774317)
When I was in medical/pharmaceutical sales, the definition of a medical
"expert" was a doctor 50 miles from home with slides.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Jethro bo 5/3/2021 3:15:48 PM (No. 774319)
Fauci, thy name is Chicken Little!
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Kate318 5/3/2021 3:42:00 PM (No. 774341)
Trust me, #10, no one who is unvaccinated wants you to wear a face mask. And, as far as future health repercussions, the vaccinated are the ones who need to be concerned.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
The Remnants 5/3/2021 3:47:03 PM (No. 774344)
The New York Times quoting "experts"?
Didn't they recently have to issue a retraction for misinformation they printed about Rudy Giuliani?
With all the editors and attorneys and fact-checkers the N.Y. Times has working for them, they should not be making these kinds of errors. Just do not trust their reporting.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 5/3/2021 3:50:58 PM (No. 774347)
They don't want to let it go. it gives them so much power and wealth. Very likely we have already reached herd immunity.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Ruhn 5/3/2021 3:55:03 PM (No. 774356)
There’s no such thing as consensus in science. Even if someone invokes consensus—which there is not with particular issue—watch out for your wallet. You’re about to be had.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
downnout 5/3/2021 3:55:19 PM (No. 774357)
Down here in DeSantis country the mask Nazis are becoming fewer and fewer.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
texaspast 5/3/2021 3:55:29 PM (No. 774358)
Synopsis - there's no money to be made in herd immunity.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
MickTurn 5/3/2021 4:52:10 PM (No. 774400)
I know how to solve the MAJOR problem facing America...ROUND up ALL the Leftists/Commies, HERD them into one large area (or many smaller ones), introduce The Chinese Virus to them, sit back and wait. It would also be entertaining to ration food/water then watch them start fights with each other for stealing food/water...
How Entertaingly Sweet it would be!
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
mean Gene 5/3/2021 4:58:43 PM (No. 774415)
Traditionally, herd immunity was always defined as when 1/2 of the population had already had a disease OR was immunized against that disease.
Leftist would-be despots tried to keep control by moving that goalpost.
The covid immunity might be reached after 60%, then 70%, now 80% of the population has either had it or been vaccinated against it.
Meanwhile Florida is over covid.
And Utah is almost over it as I just went shopping and no one wore masks!
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Right Time 5/3/2021 6:09:11 PM (No. 774499)
Oh, yeah. America reaching herd immunity to the Fake Black Plague is as absurd as the Arizona Election Audit confirming that the 2020 Election was NOT STOLEN
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
TJ54 5/3/2021 6:16:34 PM (No. 774511)
Expert aka Demtard liar
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
anniebc 5/3/2021 7:13:11 PM (No. 774543)
There are enough gullible people out there to keep this going forever. When the next virus shows up, they'll accept even more restrictions on their freedoms. Bunch of wussies.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
skacmar 5/3/2021 8:19:55 PM (No. 774583)
The government and liberal newspapers need to get some new "experts". Seems that The Government depends too much on one person, Dr. Fauci. While he may have his opinions, there are a lot of doctors with similar or better credentials who have a different opinion than he does. The liberal media seems to have their go-to "experts" who will confirm whatever their agenda is.
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it's hard to reach herd immunity when you are letting 100,000 illegals into the country each month.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
BarryNo 5/3/2021 8:53:40 PM (No. 774605)
Notice none of their named experts came out and said, "...it's unlikely, etc. ..."
Have to wonder if they did the same thing IPCC did with the Climate Change Report at the UN: Lot's of names, and the conclusion they drew from the submitted papers, but surprised few of the experts agreed with their projections and demanded they retract their names from the report - which the IPCC refused to do.
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There they are again.... "experts." What, are they grown on a farm somewhere??
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