Was the FBI Behind the Oklahoma Bombing?

Acting alone? What about perp #2? padilla?

It is truly a shame that an article such as this appears in the United States. That said, the FBI has earned some doubt about their integrity.

NO. They may have used the event to promote their ongoing fantasy of white supremacist groups secretly attempting to take over the government but that fertilizer bomb could have been manufactured and set off by anybody with a military background and a functioning brain, as it was.

I will never forget that day. I was at a conference in Oregon.

After hearing Tucker Carlson's interview with a woman who has extensively investigated the OKC bombing I think we need consider the possibility of a govt operation that went bad by creating a larger explosion than intended in an attempt to create the illusion of a white supremacist terror attack.

My son was living in Oklahoma City when this happened. He showed me tapes of local reporting that was a far cry from national. We all got the sanitized version. Lots more went on than we'll ever know.

I dont know, but with all we have learned about their treasonous activities lately, I dont doubt it. Yet they still exist? Why? They have done more damage than good.

In the late 80s and early 90s, the feds were all over the western US looking under every rock for "white supremacists." They opened a fake pawn shop outside Hill AFB in Utah, hoping to infiltrate the imaginary white supremacist illegal gun trade. They ended up netting two black Airmen from the base who sold them an F-16 engine.

The prisons are full of death row inmates, some have been waiting 20 years, but the government killed Timothy McVeigh right away

Even assuming he deserved it, I wondered why McV's execution was fast-tracked and skipped over the endless appeals and delays and DECADES it takes for every other death row denizen.

What may be surprising to some is there is a conspiracy theory that the Oklahoma bombing was a coordinated plot by the Mossad intended to place blame for the bombing on Arabs and link the attack to Saddam Hussein. That it was the first attempt to draw the US into war in the Middle East, it failed miserably, so they escalated their plans and 9/11 succeeded.

What have they not been behind? Like the CIA, they have greatly gone beyond their mandate. Throw in domestic terrorism, so long as it involves white people, and it's off to the races. Notice how of all the people on death row, McVeigh couldn't be executed fast enough while others wait decades for their execution. And it certainly seems that the only race in this country that hangs out together at some rural location with weapons are white Christian men. Just look at their scheme to entrap those men trying to kidnap Gov Whitmer.

Considering what we know now, I’ll believe anything other than the “official federal government explanation.” And not just concerning OKC. As we’ve seen, the U.S. federal government is capable of anything, including mass murder.

IIRC, the Rose Law firm files were stored in that building.

After what's been revealed, nothing would surprise me. I was certain something was wrong, when they insisted McVey acted alone, and then had him executed to shut him up.

This article outlines a pattern of FBI egging on, providing the munitions and arms, to groups they oppose, including the Eric Holder arms smuggling to Mexico, the attempted kidnapping of the Michigan governor, following but not intervening in the Boston marathon bombing, watching the attack in Dallas and taking the perpetrators there. The FBI has never been overseen. Everything is redacted, covered up, and they are in charge of investigating themselves. The FBI was heavily involved in J6, and covered up the evidence of the Biden laptop, never investigated Epstein, and spied on Trump for the last decade. Patel has not cleaned up the FBI, instead appearing on Hannity to reveal emails about events we have known about for 10 years, rehashing old news.

Does any one recall the prosecutor Janet Reno sent to investigate/prosecute the bombing? IIFC, it was Merrick Garland.

If I remember correctly, there was more blast damage farther from the truck bomb than closer to it (which couldn't have happened if only the truck bomb was used.) This means there were other bombs planted inside, and triggered by the truck bomb blast. Also, a lot of the higher up FBI personnel were out of the office that day, something that very rarely happens. The FBI was anxious to destroy the bombed-out building that they completely demolished it shortly after the blast, without forensic examination. I'd say the FBI was up to their eyeballs in the bombing and did a pretty good job of covering it up.

Actually, McVeigh was in contact with a foreign terrorist who put together the "Bojinka Plot" which was hatched in the Philippines. This plot was linked to al Qaeda and the World Trade Center plotters.

If we knew what was happening or being stored in that building it may help. The 3 Obama terms have caused me to re-evaluate everything we've been told about terrorism and strange murders. Readers here know most all of them. Could the 2nd person be a 'Ray Epps'?

I was always perplexed by the alacrity with which McVeigh was executed. Whereas the average length of time between death sentence and execution is about twenty years, it only took four years for the feds to kill McVeigh. Speedy justice or expeditious cover-up? You be the judge.

The pattern includes destroying the bodies of people killed committing crimes while they are still warm when information is wanting. Crooks, Epstein, etc. They didn't even let bin Laden get off the boat. All under dem presidents.

The FBI has ALWAYS been a CORRUPT organization. Hoover was a Criminal POS Blackmailing many Congress critters and others.

I compared pictures of truck bombings. You recall that hotel in Saudi Arabia that was truck bombed, killing U.S. troops who where staying there? Also, the attack on the Indian building used by their legislature. Deep holes in the ground where the truck was when it exploded. I didn't see that in front of the Murrah building. Do we just make more blast resistant pavement? Also, the building across the street seemed to have minimal/no damage to its windows. I didn't know about so much that was in this article. That books sounds interesting.

Nope...he and his side kick were the two involved...case closed....

It happened 30 years ago. It's in the past. Leave it there. Nothing will be accomplished rehashing this and it will take focus off current events. I would rather stop what is going on now. Our government is corrupt. Focus on what it is involved in today.

It was 30 years ago but, if true, the tactics are still in play. Ignoring the corruption ( treason?) only encourages more of it.

past is prologue they say. our experience out here is that memories are long-- trust in the central govt is short--going back to the days of the man in the marabou slides. so, the short answer will be linked -past to future- and found to be ....yes.....one expects.

My former S-I-L at that time worked across the street at the AT&T building as a lower level manager. She was normally a "little late" getting to work after dropping off the kids, but always drove in front of the Murray Building before turning into AT&T's parking location.. However, that day, she made it to work ahead of schedule, and had just gotten her morning brew and was back in her office when the bomb went off. The bomb went off at almost the exact time she would have been on the street looking at her parking garage. Growing up we had a family business nearby down there and when they were building it my father opined that it was the most hideous piece of government architecture ever conceived. AI ran deliveries through those streets daily, and, yes, it was truly ugly. However, it became the creepiest place I've ever driven around after they began allowing civilians to circumnavigate it. The large black roof tarps dangling down looked like death curtains in a mortuary or something, and it was eerily quiet.

Re: #18 - I've studied, trained, and obtained experience in the use of multiple explosives in geological and law enforcement applications. I completed my professional career deeply involved in the science and application of explosives and IED detection for the protection of civil aviation assets, including traveling Americans. The primary explosives McVey reportedly used on the Murrah Building, ammonium nitrate and fuel oil (ANFO) have been used extensively in mining operations and have well known blast characteristics but they are in no way surgical in their characteristics. Having the opportunity to view the building before it was finished off by demolition crews, the actual damage to the Murrah building was consistent with the use of the reported 7,000 pounds of ammonium nitrate, diesel fuel and nitromethane contained in plastic barrels inside of a rented Ryder truck, used by McVeigh and his co-conspirators. Had explosives been placed inside the building, those would most likely have been linear shaped charges of "plastic" explosives, like RDX (the primary explosive ingredient of C4) and PETN, the combination of which is known as Semtex, a Czech-manufactured explosive of choice used by Islamic terrorists in the 1980s and 1990s. Semtex was used to take down Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, after which our government made it a priority to develop capability for the detection of Semtex and other "homemade" explosives, but not ANFO, as the amount of ANFO required to detonate can easily be detected by the size of the necessary containers. Hauling in large containers of ANFO to place inside the Murrah building would have been detected and challenged, even by untrained observers, much less the multiple federal agency personnel, apart from the FBI, like ATF, Secret Service, and DEA, or even the VA personnel who all had offices within the building. Linear shaped charges have been and are still used in controlled implosions to demolish older structures to make way for new construction. Had such explosives been used inside of the Murrah building, there would have been no need to truck in 7,000 pounds of ANFO, as the entire building would likely have collapsed. The two narrow ends of the largely rectangular building were left standing with minor structural damage from the blast. Shaped charges of plastic explosives, timed correctly, would have reduced those ends in a way that would have caused the entire building to collapse into a pile of debris, which was not the case. The Murrah Building had been constructed using steel-reinforced concrete, with a lot of glass facing the front of the building, which took the brunt of the blast. Unlike the World Trade Center on 9/11, there were no "pancake" collapses of multiple floors, which are likely in controlled implosions. That is not to say that elements or individuals within our government couldn't have played a role in the McVeigh caper.