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Logic proves that the Biblical God exists

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Posted By: Hazymac, 6/8/2025 6:37:55 AM

William Sullivan’s essay regarding scientific atheism is intriguing and enlightening. It got me thinking about a very simple proof for a Creator. The atheist loves to proclaim, “There is no scientific proof of the existence of God!” This is true, since by “scientific” proof, the atheist means “empirical” proof, and there is no empirical proof of anything. However, it is quite easy to use logic to prove in easy steps that God exists and that He is the God of the Bible. 1. Every existing thing either is or is not existentially dependent upon the action of other beings. Those beings that are existentially dependent are called “contingent.” A being that is not

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Reply 1 - Posted by: franq 6/8/2025 7:39:07 AM (No. 1961473)
We are here. That's all the proof anyone needs. From that you move on to the claims of Christ.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: ARKfamily 6/8/2025 7:40:32 AM (No. 1961475)
I do not wish to simplify scientific proof but it would seem atheists and agnostics ignore the science right in front of them. Right in front of their nose, so to speak. Given the complexity of our bodies, I am shown every day that God exists. . .
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Reply 3 - Posted by: minuteman 6/8/2025 7:46:06 AM (No. 1961479)
Clever proof. I enjoyed it. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities – his eternal power and divine nature – have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. -Romans 1:20
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 6/8/2025 7:54:02 AM (No. 1961489)
This article seemed a bit obscure to me, but maybe I am not thinking at Molly's level. I prefer this proof: Mankind is not improving over time. Our genes have gotten so broken down that we have gone from living 900 years to living less than 100. In the early years of perfectly designed genes, siblings could produce offspring. By the time of Abraham there were fertility issues by marrying within an extended family. Today people are using extreme methods to force a pregnancy, and ending up with offspring that have significant health issues as a result. Cancer is rampant due to broken down immune systems. We are not evolving we are devolving! We have been fed a ridiculous fable with evolution, and have lost the integrity of our society with its embrace.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: chumley 6/8/2025 7:58:26 AM (No. 1961493)
Faith is a belief in something without proof. As soon as the proof becomes available, it becomes science. I have my spiritual beliefs and they have served me well, but as to scientific proof I have none. I will still not go around complicating definitions and manipulating evidence to try to convince others. Nothing about my belief system requires agreement of anyone else.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Rumblehog 6/8/2025 8:04:02 AM (No. 1961496)
There’s no scientific proof an atheist exists either. “The fool says in his heart there is no God.”
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Strike3 6/8/2025 9:24:18 AM (No. 1961543)
I always use the capabilities of the mosquito as an example. One of those little creatures has more power and better flight and weapons system than our best jet fighters. We are powerless against them.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: franq 6/8/2025 9:48:09 AM (No. 1961557)
Indeed, #7. And science™ has shown that the wings of the male beat 5-600 times PER SECOND. I wonder how many million years of evolution it took, before the poor things could finally take off, to search for food, to sustain their lives, so they could reproduce....
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Reply 9 - Posted by: JHHolliday 6/8/2025 9:51:58 AM (No. 1961561)
I have a liberal brother who likes to spout about there being no God. One one hand, he thinks it sets himself up as more logical and intelligent than us dumb believers. On the other hand, I really think that he is so terrified of death that he wants to be convinced otherwise.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: jhpeters2 6/8/2025 10:10:15 AM (No. 1961573)
Our understanding of science has more costume changes than Cher does during her live shows. We do look through a glass darkly.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: synchronicity 6/8/2025 10:33:41 AM (No. 1961586)
The author posits a philosophical "proof" for the existence of God. There is also a scientific explanation which is currently being used to explain away any need for God. It goes like this: 1) The universe was created by a Big Bang. Scientists don't know what caused the Big Bang so they assume that other Big Bangs are creating new universes with different laws of physics in different dimensions all the time (something else scientists can't prove or even explain adequately) - an infinitude of new and different universes where anything possible can happen will happen. 2) Scientists have shown that quantum events (essentially everything that happens in our universe at the sub-atomic level) is influenced by an / the observer (conscious entities - us). Seeing that this goes against scientists' innate hate / dislike of Einstein's "spooky action at a distance" they have come up with the following explanation: Any quantum event can be one thing or one other thing so each time a quantum event occurs "both" occur with new universes / dimensions being the result. Statistically #1 events have, and are, occurring infinitely while #2 events have, and are, occurring infinitely so infinity x infinity = everything conceivably, as well as inconceivably, possible has to exist without the intervention of any Supreme Being / Intelligence. BTW - modern science can currently only explain what 4% of our own universe is according to their theories. The other 96% has been labelled "Dark" (matter & energy) much as parts of Africa used to be labelled "Darkest (unknown / unexplored by civilized people) Africa" in the 1800's. At the moment scientists are completely ignorant as to what this "missing" 96% of what that say they know "is". Occam's Razor sides with the God hypothesis at this time.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: FormerDem 6/8/2025 10:56:14 AM (No. 1961595)
#11 yes .... but those struggles are only making the dilemma bigger, imo, the question of the bigness of the thing that is scaled to us. .... So before these struggles, we all faced the surprise of a universe scaled to the requirement that it be comfy for us - appearance of us (number of baryons, fine structure constant etc.) ... This they did not want to believe.... so they posited a whole ensemble of other universes. But in the end that whole ensemble is now scaled to us.... Did not solve anything but quite the obfuscatory triumph as many long words can be used and who can answer them back? .... But they have got nowhere imo. .... btw, people resisting anything about the Arrow of Time is all over science. Best to be kind. .... And the ever existence of these flailing objections is why it always comes down to faith, even though it is logical. Best to be kind. Always.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 6/8/2025 10:59:18 AM (No. 1961596)
Would have read the article, but American Thinker wanted me to turn off my ad blocker. Not happening. I look at it this way. Is humanity a product of random chance or does humanity have a design behind it. If humanity has a design, it has a designer, a God. First and foremost, God is the designer and creator, and humanity does not appear to be a product of random chance. I remember reading about an experiment. Some scientists tried to simulate Earth's environment before there was life to see if life would form on its own. Absolutely no success at all. At best they created a few complex molecules. This experiment ran for decades. Might still be running today.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: hurricanegirl 6/8/2025 1:15:58 PM (No. 1961640)
Scientists have an origin problem. Every particle in the universe had to come from somewhere. They stupidly point to a big bang, but since explosions have never created anything from nothing, that's pretty lame. Then they point to aliens . . . until someone asks them who made the aliens. And on and on it goes. It takes a LOT of work to be an atheist!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Italiano 6/8/2025 1:17:59 PM (No. 1961641)
"Science" is nothing more than the study of God's creations. That and Hebrews 11:1 pretty much covers it.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: EQKimball 6/8/2025 2:52:54 PM (No. 1961675)
My late father retired as the chair of the history department st a small liberal arts college where he had taught for 20 years. Dad was a lifelong agnostic who allowed his children to be raised Catholic, a promise he made to our mother when they became engaged. A few years before he died, I asked him if he had ever read Genesis. He had not because it sounded like an old fashioned fable involving a talking snake and he had never been into the Harry Potter genre of fiction. He did know that it was an ancient text presumably written a Hebrew prophet without knowledge of science including astronomy, physics, geology, botany, and edddzoology. I told him the author’s sequence of creation— a burst ofl light, a void planet earth, then atmosphere, next oceans, then life in the oceans, then life on land, vegetation, animals and birds, and finally humans would be an extremely impressive guess. He nodded. “What would be the odds of an ancient author getting it right?” I asked him. Taking his time to answer, he replied slowly, “Maybe a billion to one.”
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Reply 17 - Posted by: TruthTellerTommy 6/8/2025 9:52:12 PM (No. 1961777)
I hope the logic that leads to ONE and ONLY one necessary being (God) doesn't preclude three separate necessary beings: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
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