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The Law’s Inexorable Logic Should Eventually
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Posted By: DVC, 4/3/2024 10:59:00 AM

The current status of the New York civil fraud case that New York Attorney Letitia James filed against Donald Trump, and that resulted in a huge ruling against him, thanks to Judge Arthur Engoron, is just a little bit of a puzzle. In the short term, Trump is on defense, but the wheels of justice should turn and place him on offense. Understanding that requires us to look at the logic of the law, a subject at once fascinating and exacting and, sometimes, very surprising. The role of logic in law is one of the features of the law that most non-lawyers misunderstand.


An interesting discussion of the basics of law. This non-lawyer who has followed Supreme Court cases for decades, and tried to understand how things work found this fascinating.
BUT let's hope and pray that somewhere along the line, Trump and America can get back to ACTUAL law, not the corrupt ThugLaw that the corrupt NY judges and crooked prosecuotrs proclaim for political purpose. Judge Engoron should be impeached and jailed for his obviously criminal behavior. Lucricia James should be disbarred and jailed for her criminal behavior.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 4/3/2024 11:02:22 AM (No. 1691783)
It is interesting to note that the basics of the law were not followed, which should cause the first appellate court that hears this to overturn it immediately. FTA: "Under New York law, an essential element of a cause of action for civil fraud—that is, one of the things the plaintiff must prove by a preponderance of evidence—is that the defendant’s false statement or concealment of material fact resulted in harm to the plaintiff (or, in Trump’s case, the State of New York, which acted as the lenders’ proxy). But as every netizen by this time knows, Trump’s evaluation of his own property harmed no one." The "victims of fraud" - the banks, said that they were not defrauded and were happy with the deal, and would gladly do business with Trump again. NO harm was done. The case has ZERO BASIS in law.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper 4/3/2024 11:35:54 AM (No. 1691802)
Is the author talking to third graders? Unreadable.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Quigley 4/3/2024 11:36:53 AM (No. 1691804)
An excellent article. The elements of malicious prosecution set forth in the article ought to have the entire Thug Society of the New York Bar quaking in their boots. The most difficult to prove element- “The defendant filed or pursued the underlying case for an improper purpose or abusive purpose, such as a desire to ruin the plaintiff’s reputation.”- has been admitted to by LaTetseFly James. The only thing standing between a successful malicious prosecution action by Trump is the reversal of the trial court on appeal. It would take a member in good standing of the Thug Society to uphold it; pettit members might want to merely reduce it, but then they are outed if the higher court reverses it. Judge Engorged has set up quite a row of dominos.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: seamusm 4/3/2024 12:08:24 PM (No. 1691836)
While James and Engeron are patently guilty of malicious prosecution and judicial malfeasance, they don't care. Their goal was to slow down the MAGA train and influence lo-info voters who think an accusation is equal to a conviction. Sadly there are way too damn many of those especially in blue states.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Jethro bo 4/3/2024 1:18:20 PM (No. 1691869)
Interesting take but leaves out the most important role of logic in Law. The people believe in the law and fair application of the law. Thus far, from Sandy Berger, Hitlery Clinton and Diaper Joe, there is a beyond a reasonable doubt of fair application of the law. From NYC and Latsitsa James to Atlanta GA's Fannys Willis and the uber corrupt 'application of logic of Law by Engeron and Scott McAfee, there is beyond a reasonable doubt of the fair application of the Law. The article assumes an appalls court will magically follow the law but to date, there is no evidence to support that assumption. The Appalls Court upholds the reduced fine as does the Supreme Joke of NY. We no longer have a rule of law. We have a Rule of Just-US!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 4/3/2024 1:41:42 PM (No. 1691883)
Except for the fact that Logic has been banned by 'the powers that be'. Not only is logic frowned and ridiculed by the loudest voices of modern society, the government actively prosecutes it if you try to use it against them.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: john56 4/3/2024 3:07:42 PM (No. 1691928)
For now, lawfare is doing pretty well in their quest. I haven't seen any judges do much to tell these legal despots to get the h*** out of the courtroom and not to come back again with this slop.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: bighambone 4/3/2024 3:50:36 PM (No. 1691947)
#2: maybe the author of the article wrote it in about a third grade English context so that low information Americans would understand what they were reading?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: rememberwhen 4/3/2024 4:02:52 PM (No. 1691956)
I found the unreadable article aimed at third graders quite interesting. By the way, I have more than 350 semester hours of post-secondary education, including a law degree.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Venturer 4/3/2024 4:17:50 PM (No. 1691969)
I don't have anything but common sense, but my common sense tells me that the whole case was BS and that the monetary fine was absolutely and totally insane, and James and Engoron should be removed from the practice of law.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: JackBurton 4/4/2024 10:03:42 PM (No. 1692907)
Sue 'em. Make 'em pay.
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