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What's Behind Israel's Intelligence Failure?

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Posted By: Judy W., 10/9/2023 1:31:16 PM

The Hamas terrorist attacks in Israel are truly horrible and unprecedented. (Snip)Israel is known for its excellent intelligence capabilities and its high tech tools. But there was a fatal mistake. Israel believed that it had hermetically sealed off Gaza and contained the threat from there. Even the rocket threat was understood to be controlled by Israel's Iron Dome, minimizing the chance of damage to Israeli population centers. This belief is the root cause of what has just happened in Israel. It has let things fester in Gaza for decades. Israel never wanted to send in ground forces and clean out the enemy. Now the people of Israel

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This piece is worth reading in its not-very-long entirety. Bryen is a strong supporter of Israel, as am I, but he sees the same weaknesses there that we can also see in our own country. Here, the problem is our foreign policy and military establishments, and there I believe it is the huge dominance of the government by elites with European and American mentalities, while much of the population would be thought of as deplorables. (Netanyahu is not liked by the elites and he has to fight them constantly.) I hope Israel can come to understand that coddling your enemy so they won't kill you is the worst long-term strategy there could be.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: avital2 10/9/2023 1:43:49 PM (No. 1573101)
saw this nitty gritty rundown: 1. much of border force had to be moved to West Bank due to Pali disruptions there; 2. troops/border police remaining in area were lessened due to holiday period, weekend passes; 3. during incoming fire, soldiers go to bunkers 4. massive incoming rockets and explosions distracted from gliders, invaders on foot when soldiers took cover; 5. drones took out comms towers incapacitating troop comms while explosives blew holes in fence;6. Israelis also distracted by sea invaders occupying Navy; 7. Hamas infiltrated concert crowd night before and used it as cover as they planted explosives.----interesting to integrate into intel and policy misses
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Reply 2 - Posted by: NorthernDog 10/9/2023 1:52:33 PM (No. 1573111)
It's kinda like the young woman in Baltimore who let a creepy guy into her apartment building a couple weeks ago. Most likely, she wanted to ''be nice'' and not be on high alert - despite the crime rate. He ended up raping, beating, and murdering her. Sometimes you can never 'be nice' ever again.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Highvoltage 10/9/2023 2:07:16 PM (No. 1573126)
Where was US intelligence? Apparently it too failed.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Kate318 10/9/2023 2:26:48 PM (No. 1573139)
The U.S.? Just a guess…
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Reply 5 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 10/9/2023 2:35:40 PM (No. 1573146)
Israel must move the border west into the sea! 200 miles or so? Let’s ask Bide…woods…he’s down for the day!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: thefield 10/9/2023 3:17:26 PM (No. 1573176)
I had developed two theories. The lsreali group had discovered the plot but because it was so huge couldn't believe it. My other theories are the u.s knew about it and thought it was crazy or they hoped it was true.
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