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Can Ron DeSantis Win?

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Posted By: sagman, 8/14/2023 8:32:11 PM

Of course, Ron DeSantis can come back and win. Anybody in the race can win – we saw Trump come back in 2016 when most everyone wrote him off in the general. Now it’s the Florida governor’s turn to be written off, but he’s not exactly in the same place that Trump was. DeSantis is a strong second right now. For him, it’s not a matter of a miracle happening, threading a bunch of needles to win the general when rational betters would bet against you like in 2016. No, Ron DeSantis has a plan, and there’s a method to his muddling through.


I know that many posters feel DeSantis should just withdraw and leave the field clear for President Trump. Schlichter makes the case that this is exactly the wrong thing to do.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: IowaDad 8/14/2023 8:36:18 PM (No. 1534496)
I saw him at a small event a few days ago. He was much more intimated than he was a month ago, and he is very much a viable candidate. If Trump stands down
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MattMusson1 8/14/2023 8:44:50 PM (No. 1534505)
If he wants to insure a strong second place finish he should come out strongly against the kangaroo indictments. Then, he could step in if Trump dies or drops out.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: jayjeti 8/14/2023 8:46:21 PM (No. 1534508)
You only have to go by Trump's words on how DeSantis can win. Trump said DeSantis is hoping these indictments will somehow keep him out of the race, which people don't seem to pay much attention to Trump being jailed or if they will tack on an insurrection charge in DC which by law would make Trump ineligible to hold public office. Trump will be found guilty in these kangaroo courts, and one or more corrupt judges will give Trump time.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: HPmatt 8/14/2023 8:49:31 PM (No. 1534514)
As soon as DeSantis and the Rinos can steal votes of 80 million voters that WRITE IN Trump.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: sagman 8/14/2023 9:04:56 PM (No. 1534527)
#4, I'm sorry, but I keep hearing that DeSantis is a RINO and I have yet to see any evidence this is so, aside from maybe he said hello once to Paul Ryan. DeSantis is a formidable conservative politician who does not deserve to be driven out of the race by innuendo. If you want him gone, then you want what Democrats want.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Catherine 8/14/2023 9:06:38 PM (No. 1534531)
I will not vote for DeSantis. He is not his own man. He's a Bush puppet and most of what he says sounds just like them.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Californian 8/14/2023 9:11:07 PM (No. 1534537)
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Kate318 8/14/2023 9:12:16 PM (No. 1534538)
Work it, Kurt, work it. Twist that pretzel again and again. And, while you’re at it, throw in the latest GOPe narrative on campaign money going for legal fees. You, like all GOPe, have no idea who Trump supporters are. Saying they only like Trump because they haven’t had a chance to know the governor is pure fantasy. Same posters, same comments.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Californian 8/14/2023 9:13:45 PM (No. 1534540)
Btw, an insurrection charge is not enough to keep Trump from running. Only a conviction would disallow him being president.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Vaquero45 8/14/2023 9:24:21 PM (No. 1534542)
A dose of reality from the Schlichtmeister.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: nerdowell 8/14/2023 9:31:56 PM (No. 1534545)
DeSantis would make an excellent candidate--except for his defective sense of timing, judgement, and what do you call it-- charisma? He'd do well at a desk in the State Department, if they locked away all the sharp objects. Oh, he's not that bad, I guess. I just hate him for running against President Trump.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Another Concerned Citizen 8/14/2023 9:32:29 PM (No. 1534546)
Kurt has become more of the tiresome noise while the Country continues to burn. Tell it to your psychiatrist Kurt. We can read the writing on the endless walls and know what's at stake.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: SALady 8/14/2023 10:01:21 PM (No. 1534562)
DeSantis is starting to run way too much in the murky middle. Today he said he actually "likes" Disney and has been "happy to work with them". It was his brave stand against Disney that won over so many conservatives. Now he is going "squishy". Donald Trump is the only person who doesn't have to sell his soul to special interests to win. That is why the strong majority of his contributions are from small individual citizens. DeSantis does have to sell his soul to afford to run, and his weakening stands on conservative issues is starting to wreak of this.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Rama41 8/14/2023 10:05:44 PM (No. 1534567)
Democrats are already running their election strategy. Seem or heard Biden lately? The only way they win is with J6 and Trump trials. And by refusing to court voters outside of his base, Trump is guaranteeing his loss. Schlichter is on point: DeSantis for the win.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: smak90 8/14/2023 10:15:25 PM (No. 1534573)
He can easily win if the establishment and agencies pick him as the winner. If it's a fair election I think Trump voters may just stay home since their votes don't count anyway.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: sagman 8/14/2023 10:32:33 PM (No. 1534579)
I swear to Heaven, I don't know where some of you are coming from re DeSantis. A "Bush puppet." Where the heck is that coming from? "Trump said that DeSantis is hoping...." How does Trump know what DeSantis is hoping? DeSantis has sold his soul? Maybe in some parallel universe, but not this one. And I am aghast at the broadsides against Schlichter. If you read the man regularly, you know he is hard right and trying to get the country to wake up to the virulent Left.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: HPmatt 8/14/2023 10:56:30 PM (No. 1534581)
How many $20 contributors has DeSantis got? Oops - he got an RNC waiver not to disclose. The guy is funded by Billionaires and carries their water. He has not been seen in Florida - honor his commitment and serve his 2 more years. FL voters support Trump, not this guy that is losing voters as fast as they hear his phoniness.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: HPmatt 8/14/2023 11:00:57 PM (No. 1534582)
DeSantis should pledge to support Trump - the front runner, regardless of the made false charges. Like the Mar-a-Lago raid…..crickets Governor Ron.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: mc squared 8/14/2023 11:22:24 PM (No. 1534589)
Did I miss something? Schlichter says that DES turned the state red and was re-elected?. DeSantis was elected in 2019 and is serving his first term.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: DanvilleBill 8/14/2023 11:36:23 PM (No. 1534597)
This salon has changed OP. Quite different than it was 20 years ago. Since those days we've all been to Trump University and we only eat Trump Steaks. And we don't mind losing general elections as long as The Big Don leads us to glorious defeats. And then there is Robinette. Consider writing in Franz Kafka in the next election if the presumed candidates become our choices in '24. (you know who they are). Franz is currently running a low key campaign but he's exactly the kind of president this country needs/deserves. If that doesn't work out we can all look forward to Don JR running in '28!
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Rinktum 8/14/2023 11:58:23 PM (No. 1534610)
I don’t know what planet this guy is on but it definitely is somewhere far far away. He can talk DeSantis up all he wants but reality is going to hit him in the face sooner than later. Look at Trump’s reception in Iowa, does that look like a guy who has peaked? Come on. Ron made a terrible showing because people just do not like him. Keep trying to put lipstick on that pig, Kurt! Americans are ticked and they are not going to abandon Trump. There is one guy the people trust to do right by them. One guy who has a proven record of keeping his promises. One guy who is not beholden to the donor class. One guy who believes that American lives should matter more than Ukrainian lives. One guy who understands without a border you do not have a sovereign nation. Most of all, he’s the one guy who will fight to his dying breath to make this country great again.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Miceal 8/15/2023 12:00:38 AM (No. 1534612)
No he can't. MAGA
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Reply 23 - Posted by: YorkieMom 8/15/2023 12:02:36 AM (No. 1534614)
Thank you for posting this, OP, and thank you for writing this, Kurt. I know most posters think Trump can win, but they’re underestimating the democrats. I believe, as Kurt does, that Trump can’t win, and I am with Kurt. I want us to win, or we might as well write off the USA. You might dislike the Republican rinos, but do you honestly believe Trump doesn’t need their votes? If you can show me where Trump can get any democrat votes and enough independent votes, I might believe he can win. Please don’t quote the polls like Trump does constantly. They mean nothing now.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Surroundedbyblue 8/15/2023 1:10:39 AM (No. 1534629)
He can win (with some help), the nomination, but he is not going to win over many of Trump’s supporters. I don’t see how he can win the general.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: NotaBene 8/15/2023 4:19:57 AM (No. 1534654)
I value loyalty. So no.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: tisHimself 8/15/2023 5:25:44 AM (No. 1534661)
Never Trumpers and Fauci followers herein seem to like him. Having emerged from the swamp and connected Ivy League pedigree, and unable to step up and stand with Trump, he misjudged his opportunity. The establishment that supports him today will turn on him knowing that he can only alienate Trumps populist support. And standing in the shadows as the Uniter is someone palatable to Wall Street and China and the swamp——Mitt or Paul Ryan.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: sagman 8/15/2023 6:22:33 AM (No. 1534674)
I'll vote for President Trump in a heartbeat if he gets the nomination, but I believe he must earn that nomination. What a great idea: everyone else is a midget or compromised, so they should all just disappear. And the constant drumbeat that DeSantis is some kind of deep state puppet? This notion is belied by his record and his utterances. He is articulate, tough, and knowledgeable. He has a demonstrated record of taking on the left and winning. Yet I see post after post that he's a loser, compromised, disloyal, on and on. I've watched him on the stump and listened to him in extended interviews. He is impressive. Somebody worth our vote has to stay the course in case there is a need.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: 49 Ford 8/15/2023 6:25:41 AM (No. 1534675)
This board is fast sinking into irrationality. OP and a few other posters are the only ones who make any sense. Thanks to # 23 for a very succinct and accurate analysis.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: 49 Ford 8/15/2023 6:57:00 AM (No. 1534683)
And # 13, you have to understand that DeSantis' comments about Disney are simply throwaway lines, the sort of niceties public officials sometimes have to say. Did the governor actually soften his position concerning Disney? No! So don't deceived - RDS has not in any way "gone squishy".
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Reply 30 - Posted by: cireskul 8/15/2023 8:03:10 AM (No. 1534715)
Not interested in doing what the GOP establishment wants me to do, abandon the only President in my lifetime ( I am 60 ) to actually deliver in spite of backstabbing from his own party. No. I will not vote for Ron DeSantis. I am not alone.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: tisHimself 8/15/2023 8:04:43 AM (No. 1534718)
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Ashley Brenton 8/15/2023 8:51:53 AM (No. 1534746)
The 2020 election was stolen. Thousands of fraudulent registrations, and a ballot mailed off for every one of them. My legal vote was buried in an avalanche of lies. DeSantis seems to think this is just another election where candidates throw their hat in the ring and may the best platform and sales pitch win. No. This is about stealing elections. And he should butt out.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Red Ghost 8/15/2023 9:16:47 AM (No. 1534762)
I couldn't agree more with Schlichter that we better have a very strong second. The democrats and global deep state have a playbook and they are following it assiduously. Get Trump by any means necessary; legal, illegal or otherwise. It is precisely because they know Trump can win and did win in 2016 and 2020. They will do everything in their power to ensure that ain't never happening again. Ron DeSantis is a great governor. If you haven't seen him speak in person, don't believe he doesn't connect nonsense. He does and, very well. At least when we saw him. He was a wonderful example of an up and coming MAGA. Disappointingly, and I believe stupidly, he has aligned himself with the Bush/Ryan party apparatchiks. In the process, his loyalty to the MAGA movement is rightly being questioned. Unfortunately, he has flipped on some positions (Ukraine) thereby showing many of us he can be manipulated at a time when we need a Superman. We have Superman. Superman quite frankly, does not need to prove himself again, as some here have suggested. We know what he is made of and if these last few years have shown anything, Trump truly is a man of steel. He is my guy come hell or high water. But very bad things are afoot in this country. And as any good general would do, we better have a top notch back up plan. At this point, Governor DeSantis is that plan and DeSantis can win if we don't have Trump. But he must prove himself to be a strong and brave leader, one who is battlefield tested. He must become a Superman. I believe DeSantis can test his own mettle and be that battlefield hero if he sets an example, supports Trump and leads every Republican to support Trump in this disgusting Lawfare. As I have said before, Republicans can stand strong and united with Trump on these sham indictments without supporting his candidacy for president. They must do so, for their own preservation and political futures because if Lawfare becomes the norm Republicans will never win another serious public office.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: commonsence 8/15/2023 9:18:17 AM (No. 1534763)
DeSantis is now falling into single digits, but he's the one that will win the general election. I'm sorry but I just don't follow the logic. I think it was a week ago one of his financial backers said you will moderate, and like a good little puppy to DeSantis did. Of course there's no evidence that he's run by his backers. To the posters who were crowing about Trump losing the 20/20 election, I have to believe that you think the election was fair and wasn't corrupt. Well a lot of the base doesn't agree with you.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: tisHimself 8/15/2023 10:16:28 AM (No. 1534787)
Trump supporters should not change the parade route and follow someone else. If not Trump, than someone who supported him, not someone who turned on him, joined with the neverTrump chorus or hid in the tall grass. Effective conservative governor? Plan B should be Scott Walker. If Trump were to support him. Until Trump waves the white flag, such talk is speculative at best. But no, there are better proven leaders than DeSantis who didn't turn on Trump.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: Right Time 8/15/2023 11:38:55 AM (No. 1534847)
Florida would have a black, “Down Low” druggie as a Governor now, as Trump’s support for DeSantis over Tampa mayor Gilliam was decisive.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: 49 Ford 8/15/2023 1:13:04 PM (No. 1534922)
If this campaign cycle becomes a referendum on Trump, wounded feelings and the 2020 election we are going to lose bigly. Has anyone here considered what a drag Trump's candidacy will be on the down ticket races?
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Reply 38 - Posted by: YorkieMom 8/15/2023 3:51:59 PM (No. 1535007)
#37 is correct about the down ticket. The democrats will make sure they get the House too, in the next election. They never give up.
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Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Monday told an Australian woman complaining about "too many American flags" to go back to her country in response to a video of her posted to social media. TikTok user Mia Chloe, who goes by the username @meanderwithmia, often posts about "Traveling the world on a budget & no brain cells," according to her account page. In a video posted several days ago, she called out the abundance of American flags she observed in her travels to the United States. "I'm just going to say it. There are too many American flags. They're on houses. They're on cars. Some are on couch cushions," she said.
Now It’s Official. I Know it, You Know
it. Everyone Knows It. Trump’s Georgia
Indictment is the Final Proof the 2020
Election Was Stolen
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Posted by Imright 8/15/2023 12:56:27 PM Post Reply
Folks, now you know it. I know it. Everyone with a brain knows it. Even Democrats (deep down) know it. The 2020 election was stolen. The debate is over. How do I know? Because both the feds and Georgia just indicted our President for talking about, questioning, and trying to investigate a stolen election. When the communist thugs, bullies and tyrants make it a crime to question a stolen election, in a country built around free speech, it’s 100% proof they stole the election. There is a perfect precedent. In the NFL. The game was called “The Miracle in the Meadowlands.” Everything about that fixed game reminds me
Fulton County clerk who leaked Trump charges
says she accidentally hit 'send' instead
of 'save'
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Posted by Skinnydip 8/16/2023 1:00:21 PM Post Reply
The Fulton County Clerk of Courts admitted to accidentally releasing the fourth indictment on former President Donald Trump. She said she pressed send instead of save on the document. "I am human," Ché Alexander told Channel 2's Tom Jones on Tuesday. She was apparently under a lot of pressure to make sure the process went smoothly and made the oncoming indictment public. Alexander told Jones that she wanted to get the indictment to the public as soon as possible. "And that's how the mishap happened," she said. "I have no dog in this fight," Alexander added.
Sandra Bullock’s ‘The Blind Side’
long criticized for its ‘White savior’
view of a Black athlete
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Posted by NorthernDog 8/16/2023 1:50:25 PM Post Reply
Not all Americans fell in love with Sandra Bullock’s inspirational football movie “The Blind Side” when it was released in November 2009. Sure, “The Blind Side” made $309 million at the box office and Bullock won her long-awaited Academy Award, but many Black viewers “never cared much for it” according to The Root. Discerning critics also saw the movie, based on a best-selling book by Berkeley author Michael Lewis, as another Hollywood project that uses “White savior” tropes. Now, critics of the movie have more ammunition in the wake of bombshell court documents filed by Michael Oher, the Black athlete
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