Anglican Leader Says Opening Of Lord’s
Prayer Is ‘Problematic’ For Some
Daily Wire,
by
Leif Le Mahieu
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
7/9/2023 1:32:52 AM
An archbishop in the Church of England said the opening of the “Lord’s Prayer” is considered “problematic” to some people because the 2,000-year-old prayer starts by addressing God as “Our Father.”
Archbishop of York Stephen Cottrell told the General Synod, the legislating and ruling body of the Church of England, that referring to God as “father” might be offensive to some people because of the negative connotations of patriarchy. “I know the word ‘father’ is problematic for those whose experience of earthly fathers has been destructive and abusive, and for all of us who have labored rather too much from an oppressively patriarchal grip on life,” Cottrell said,
Reply 1 - Posted by:
HisHandmaiden 7/9/2023 1:53:18 AM (No. 1508854)
LORD God, Almighty,
Please forgive this Anglican man for misunderstanding Your inerrant, all-sufficient, God-breathed, Holy Word of Prayer to You.
Might we with patience and love, pray Your Holy Spirit will lovingly in repentance, heal his heart and convict him of the Truth of Your Word.
For Your Glory, and his eternal home…
Amen and Amen.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Maggie2u 7/9/2023 1:59:13 AM (No. 1508855)
They stay awake at nights just thinking of new ways to destroy Western Civilization, don't they.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
John Farson 7/9/2023 2:17:04 AM (No. 1508858)
That prayer comes directly from Jesus as he used it to teach his Disciples to pray.
My church prays that prayer every Sunday to begin Morning Worship.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
DVC 7/9/2023 3:13:28 AM (No. 1508863)
And so?
Not our problem to pander to every snowflake and nutcase in tge world. Sucknit up, whiners.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
mifla 7/9/2023 4:01:53 AM (No. 1508869)
Time for this church to split off (again) and start the Church of Perpetual Offenses.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Rinktum 7/9/2023 4:54:31 AM (No. 1508880)
The hubris of clergy to think they can change the Word of God to suit this depraved culture is an abomination. God takes his Word very seriously and there are numerous verses in the Bible that warns of adding or subtracting from scripture. This suggestion is an affront to God.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
5 handicap 7/9/2023 5:39:37 AM (No. 1508886)
I was abandoned by the Anglican Communion in the late 1970s when they started worshiping mankind rather than the Holy Ones. From his speech , I can only assume the rift between the Church and Those they pretend to worship has deepened. Finding fault with the Christ's choice of words is arrogance beyond belief...The Church is done! Not necessarily a bad thing, however.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Rather Read 7/9/2023 7:42:42 AM (No. 1508927)
There are only two Shakers left in the world. If people like the Archbishop of York prevail, that will be the fate of the Church of England.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
PostAway 7/9/2023 7:52:08 AM (No. 1508933)
But the question for the faithful is: is it problematic for the One addressed? The archbishop’s charge is to lead people to serve Him, not to pander to the soreheads who lost the thread a long time ago and who wallow in doubt, hubris and self-pity.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Pegmo 7/9/2023 7:54:49 AM (No. 1508934)
God is not who you think or want Him to be, He is who He revealed Himself to be. The sins of fallen men who do not reflect His image does not change Him one iota.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Strike3 7/9/2023 7:56:06 AM (No. 1508936)
Every aspect of the Christian religion is a problem for some but we understand. Go ahead, say something derogatory about Islam or the Koran, I dare you.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
philsner 7/9/2023 7:57:49 AM (No. 1508937)
It is only a problem for those who attend "The Church of Me". C. S. Lewis wrote on this problem. Perhaps the "Archbishop" misplaced his copy of "the Screwtape Letters:".
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Socio 7/9/2023 7:58:25 AM (No. 1508938)
It is only problematic when you give the power to those that wish to make it problematic which is exactly what this Archbishop is doing.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
pc1eszm 7/9/2023 8:26:20 AM (No. 1508965)
If it’s “problematic”, it’s their problem, not mine.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
ARKfamily 7/9/2023 8:33:00 AM (No. 1508972)
It really boils down to people not accepting God as authority and He is sovereign. I am reminded of the question God asks in Job, “Where were you when I Iaid the foundations of the earth?” (38:4). It really is a humbling question and our own arrogance (like that of the archbishop) makes us question God's ways.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
udanja99 7/9/2023 8:33:30 AM (No. 1508973)
He’s just trying to get somebody, anybody to come sit in his pews on Sunday. Now he’s so desperate that he’s trying to entice the woke, who by and large are atheists.
Churches in the UK and Western Europe have been not much more than museums for the tourists to visit for the last few decades. I’d bet that the only times they are filled are for royal funerals, weddings and coronations. And on those occasions, the people in the pews are invited and are there to be seen.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
DVC 7/9/2023 8:38:22 AM (No. 1508978)
Traveling in Britain and Scotland now and a huge part of the various castles and abbeys were burned and leveled by Henry VIII and his Protestant armies because they were owned by Catholics.
Now these whiners are agonizing about offending some people with the Lord's Prayer. Gutless.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 7/9/2023 8:44:23 AM (No. 1508985)
This is a perfect example of when a religion ceases to be a religion. To these people, God is dead; they are God.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
bad-hair 7/9/2023 9:16:21 AM (No. 1509008)
Time to repaint the Sistine Chapel. Looks like God our Grandfather.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
bpl40 7/9/2023 9:20:45 AM (No. 1509012)
God is the Father and Jesus the Son. That is the core belief of Christianity. If you don’t agree don’t be a Christian. This is not the age of the Spanish Inquisition. No one is forcing you.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
FormerDem 7/9/2023 9:42:10 AM (No. 1509038)
If the term is problematic for some then maybe Cottrell needs to take action to remedy that relationship and that term, since it is only in adoption to the relationship Jesus Christ has with our Creator, that we are entitled to call him anything familiar.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
stablemoney 7/9/2023 9:47:54 AM (No. 1509042)
For the archbishop: Pelosi, Feinstein, Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Gretchen Whitmer, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Victoria Nuland, Lois Lerner, Maxine Waters, Eleanor Holmes Norton, AOC, Rasida Tiab, Kathy Hochul, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and many others, have given negative connotations to matriarchy, and many might find offensive.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
paral04 7/9/2023 9:56:57 AM (No. 1509052)
Next they will be worshipping cabbages and sacrificing children to represent "Diversity".
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
MickTurn 7/9/2023 10:51:01 AM (No. 1509102)
If you don't like the prayer, Leave the Church, who needs Lucifer Worshipers!
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
VirtuDawg 7/9/2023 11:25:27 AM (No. 1509134)
Christ came to speak the TRUTH, not the "politically correct" flavor of the month.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Lonestar Jack 7/9/2023 12:51:07 PM (No. 1509175)
Archie 'ol boy -- we know what to believe so go peddle your papers somewhere else.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
cold porridge 7/9/2023 12:53:04 PM (No. 1509177)
Jeses said.... “call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven" ...Matthew 23: KJV
This archbishop needs to leave the church. He's not a Christian, and neither are many priests, pastors or ministers. They should be up in arms about the evil atrocities going on today but most never speak of them.
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Just to point this out as a Jewish reader, but this prayer is a solid combination of several basic Jewish prayers.
Most notable here is Kiddushin 81a (Babylonian).[124] "Our Father which art in heaven" (אבינו שבשמים, Avinu shebashamayim) is the beginning of many Hebrew prayers
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
mseegal 7/9/2023 3:25:18 PM (No. 1509271)
And the Anglican Church is problematic for many!
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Samsquanch 7/10/2023 9:07:43 AM (No. 1509645)
Exit that church asap!
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