When you've lost Scott Adams...
Hot Air,
by
Jazz Shaw
Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought,
11/12/2022 4:12:07 PM
Earlier this morning, David looked at the startling way in which Winsome Sears cut her ties with Donald Trump after rising to prominence as a staunch soldier in the Trump army. That clearly caught some people by surprise, though not everyone. Sears wasn’t alone, however. Another fervent Trump supporter has appeared to similarly throw in the towel. Famed cartoonist Scott Adams, best known for his iconic Dilbert series, made a very brief but apparently definitive declaration on Twitter yesterday. He was responding to news that Trump was attacking Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin for reasons that weren’t entirely clear. This was apparently a bridge too far for Adams
Reply 1 - Posted by:
GardenGal 11/12/2022 4:43:52 PM (No. 1331839)
This is me too. I could take a lot of the garbage talk. But I have realized that Trump is completely off the rails. There were zero reasons to call De Santis= DeSSanctimonious, and no reason at all to call Gov Youngkin a stupid Asian slur for zero reasons cause no one was even urging him to run. WTH-- and then he even gets the country wrong- cause Yung and Kim are Korean, not Chinese names, and why would you be slurring anyone w a Korean name as a pejorative? S. Korea is a partner country to us, as is Taiwan--=-where a lot of Chinese live. But I am for winning elections and getting changes happening.
I have three millennial children and three millennial spouses of those kids. At of those, maybe one is still a Trump supporter. And 2 are definite Republicans, 3 are independents, and 1 is a low-info person but even she probably votes for R here because we live in a super R state and I am not at all sure about how she feels about our Governor, just about Trump. The point is we need to get those voters--- voters like them all around the country. We also need to get our early vote game on in any state that has that. And I have been here since the 90's.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
smaricic 11/12/2022 4:44:00 PM (No. 1331840)
What Trump could have said: "I was very impressed by DeSantis's victory. I think he would make a great Vice Presidential candidate. There are some other good choices among the Republicans. I am looking forward to 2024."
But he didn't say that, did he?
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I'm reminded of the fable of the scorpion and the crocodile (or frog in some versions).The crocodile wants to cross a river and asks to ride on the croc's back. The crocodile doesn't trust him. "You might sting me."
"No," says the scorpion. "If we are in the middle of the river and I sting you, we both drown."
Satisfied, the crocodile takes the scorpion on his back, and they start out. Halfway across, the scorpion stings him, and he begins to go under.
"This makes no sense! I'm going down but so are you!"
"I know," replied the scorpion. "I can't help it, that's my character."
Trump can't help ruining his own career and reputation by attacking winner Republicans -- that is his character.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 11/12/2022 5:17:16 PM (No. 1331857)
These people are playing checkers with a very stable genius. Unfortunately for them. he is playing 2-dimensional chess.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 11/12/2022 5:18:41 PM (No. 1331858)
Oops. I meant to type 3D chess, butt you get the idea.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Quigley 11/12/2022 5:29:08 PM (No. 1331864)
Well, i guess mean tweets is getting the Republicans to bail after all. Just because desantis and youngkin haven’t said anything doesn’t mean they have not made indirect expressions.
But then there was that impeachable phone call to the pres of Ukraine … i guess Trump really is orange man bad. And hiring girls to pee on obumbum’s bed. Bad. Bad. Orange. I’ve had it. Desantis has proved himself. I need no further evidence. Orange man bad.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
earlybird 11/12/2022 5:49:33 PM (No. 1331878)
Hot Air? Jazz Shaw? Fugetaboutit…. But watch the latest crop of NeverTrumpers swarm.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Urgent Fury 11/12/2022 5:52:03 PM (No. 1331880)
Yup. All of you go ahead and bail on Trump, just like they want you to do.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
andyboy 11/12/2022 5:58:01 PM (No. 1331883)
Not sure what Trump is up to with his recent rants, but it is not his fault that the GOP did not have a red wave -- the vast majority of candidates he endorsed won. You might want to take a look at what is going on with the as yet undecided House elections -- 9 out of 9 previously undecided races over the past two days magically went to the Democrat candidate. What are the odds? The GOP's insurmountable lead is vanishing. Don't be surprised if the Dems "shock" everyone by winning nearly every remaining contested race and taking the House. The Dem cheating machine is moving along full force -- that is why Trump lost in 2020 (not because of his personality). And that is why DeSantis, despite his competence and however appealing he may be to real human beings, will lose in 2024 if the cheating machine is not dismantled. Republicans are focused on earning votes. Democrats are focused on accumulating ballots. Wake up.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 11/12/2022 6:04:33 PM (No. 1331886)
By all means, let's get rid of Trump.
Let's get rid of McConnel and McCarthy too! (they actually deserve it)
I can see the next red wave from my door. (/s)
When people would rather believe in Trump hatred, saving the planet, social justice, and ignore inflation, the economy, and the debt, you have a major, likely insurmountable, problem.
When millions of people line up at the government troth for their cut of the government pie, you have a likely insurmountable problem.
Far too many dumb and dishonest people are voting.
Biden acts like a total complete moron and his supporters stick with him in spite of that. Think about that.
Go ahead and form your circular firing squad.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
FormerDem 11/12/2022 6:08:50 PM (No. 1331888)
You might as well get huffy about the table manners in a prisoner-of-war camp. I think he has been subjected to as much pressure as the interests involved were able to apply. Also, that anybody we pick is going to be subjected to the same thing. Most will handle it much worse. If those affected could not cope with this, they will not be up to the pressure he is under, which we all know of, namely efforts to make his wife divorce him, to bankrupt him, to put him in jail. Usually he just laughs goes on working with whoever it is provided they are on board with the actual agenda.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Italiano 11/12/2022 6:11:17 PM (No. 1331889)
Those Trump "scandals" the article cites are a crock.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Sully 11/12/2022 6:16:28 PM (No. 1331893)
My policy has not changed. I'll know when to dump Trump the same way I knew when to dump Dubya, Cheney, Romney, and Ryan:
when he sells out his base and lets the demons in blue put a target on their backs.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Rich323 11/12/2022 6:19:46 PM (No. 1331896)
Here’s my prediction. Say Everyone gets their wish and Trump is gone on Tuesday. McConnell and McCarthy continue to screw MAGA. DeSantis runs and loses due to election fraud and then MAGA is dead on arrival along with America.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
chumley 11/12/2022 6:19:52 PM (No. 1331897)
How come we have so many brand new names here at LDot going all nasty on Trump? We have had largely the same people since the late 1990's, with a few coming and going but fairly stable. Now all of a sudden we're flooded with Trump haters by people nobody has ever heard of. Starting to look suspicious.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
downnout 11/12/2022 6:22:23 PM (No. 1331899)
I noticed the same thing, #15. Paid trolls.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
earlybird 11/12/2022 6:29:12 PM (No. 1331902)
When did Scott Adams become the bellwether for Conservatives and the MAGA movement. There is something about his being thought to be the lead sheep that seems ludicrous.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
judy 11/12/2022 6:33:26 PM (No. 1331905)
Trump is still the One…. Fake is in full force on Lucianne…
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
anniebc 11/12/2022 6:35:38 PM (No. 1331906)
I despise fair-weather people. They ride with you when things are good, but first chance they get, they bail as if they never liked you. Because they never liked you; they liked what you could do for them. Maybe PDT is exposing them for who he knows them to be behind closed doors. Maybe the gloves are off. Who knows, but it's not about these people. It's about US; they're just one of many. They need to earn our trust daily, so that when they make mistakes we have something to point to for why we should stick it out with them. Give them time to prove themselves. Paul Ryan looked really good when he first came on the scenes, and a lot of conservatives fell for Dan Crenshaw, but that didn't take long.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
judy 11/12/2022 6:36:37 PM (No. 1331908)
Lucianne is being invaded by democrats .,I may have to leave.,,.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Mushroom 11/12/2022 6:37:58 PM (No. 1331909)
I'd like to point out that Mr Adams recently took a big hit to his pocket book because of his Trump support in newspapers carrying his strip. Just sayin'
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
idahoskook 11/12/2022 6:40:37 PM (No. 1331910)
Trump - 2024
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Illinois Mom 11/12/2022 6:53:37 PM (No. 1331921)
# 15...I have noticed the new "sensible" posters recently. A few older posters here and there, but a thread like this would never have gone more that a few comments without one of our fellow E.I.B. alum's interjecting a warning about falling for another Democrat scam. I know Trump can shake things up from time to time with his comments but that is the ultimate PROOF that he is no POLITICIAN. Politician's are not spontaneous they weigh and measure their words and try to please everyone with every intention of doing the opposite.
Planting the seed "We have DeSantis now we don't need a "Tweeting" Trump (Even though DeSantis, who IS a very effective Governor, was endorsed by the Bushes)
Trump may be a bombastic "Bull in a China Shop" but, because of that trait, we always know where he stands and what he is thinking. Few real surprises.
"Professor" Barack Obama could tell you that this "divide and conquer" tactic comes from Alinsky's Rule number eight : "Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage." Rule for Radical's.
Beware, there are ten similar "Rules" in the book as well.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
jimincalif 11/12/2022 7:49:34 PM (No. 1331951)
Trump did what no president has ever done, pull back the curtain on the ruling class. For this I am eternally grateful. In response the entire global ruling elite aligned to destroy him, and it’s still going on. Maybe all of the “analysis” blaming Trump for the election results is part of this. The eGOP is trying to assimilate and undermine MAGA like they did the tea party. But if MAGA voters aren’t well represented by RINOs they shouldn’t support them. The realignment is ongoing, and maybe more non-Republican voters will eventually vote for MAGA candidates when they can no longer afford to eat, heat their homes and aren’t allowed to own cars. We will see. Trump May have a role here, but he is damaging himself with his recent tirades. Attacking DeSantis and Younkin, spouting off before the final election tallies are known, and with GA going to a runoff, he should be conducting himself as a leader. What he’s doing now is not a good look and he’s doing it to himself.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Turninggrey 11/12/2022 9:24:13 PM (No. 1331976)
It's simple. All Trump has to stay is "Sorry Ron, I got a bit over the top". I would be back on board. Trump is a heroic figure. I can easily forgive this weirdness if he just mans up. You all agree with the "I got dirt on Ron, he better play nice" routine? LOL.
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I cannot believe all the gullible folks who are buying what the traitor leadership is selling. Wait for the whole truth before you throw Trump under the bus. McConnell, the Bush cabal and several others are all behind this and too many people are buying it.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
LadyHen 11/12/2022 10:24:22 PM (No. 1331999)
Well I have been here since the 90's and I and my husband have both been mystified by Trump's behavior of late. And we are not alone. We live in a state that went for Trump almost 61% in 2020. We have loads of DeSantis loving family in Florida who gleefully voted for Trump 2xs. Now is not the time or place for this kind of talk. It looks juvenile. Throwing shade on DeSantis now after his epic win in Florida? Trying to cut the legs out from under a wildly popular Republican? I have no problem with him going after Mitch or the other GOPe who didn't fund and support the right campaigns and then whined about the bad results. They need to be retired. But starting a fight with successful Republicans who are good guys NOW while we still have a runoff to win?? If there are issues, resolve them later on the campaign trail. Trump's behavior of late is hurtful to our cause and he needs to rein it in and get back on track for Walker's and all our sakes.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
MDConservative 11/12/2022 10:32:20 PM (No. 1332001)
#15 - I'm not a new name here, and no one pays me for my opinions. You and others may not care for them, but I give a rip. And your post here is another attempt to demean posters who favor a different way. After Tuesday, I am one of them.
In short, the GOP underperformed the historic mid-term results in a President's first term. Blame fraud if you like, or some other bogeyman. I'm no fan of the UNIPARTY/GOPe. But this latest nonsense by FPDT goes too far, whether referring to DeSantis, O'Dea or Youngkin. Trump did no particular good for Republicans this election cycle, believe it or not.
I don't belong to cults such as MAGA has become. I think for myself, much to the chagrin of the Bushies, McCainiacs, Romneybots, and now the Trumpistas. Hard ideology doesn't win elections. #1 and others in this thread make points that cultists dismiss out of hand because they are in a classic state of denial resorting to the old, "So, you'd rather have _____ as President." or "He's a commie plant." I suggest you all climb down from those highhorses and begin to consider a Plan B, just in case.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 11/12/2022 10:45:34 PM (No. 1332008)
I’m out too! Trump stands for Trump and Trump only! That is hardly a sellable populist position! We can’t beat cheating… We sure as hell can’t beat cheating and a war within the Conservative movement! New blood for leadership is required!
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Nimby 11/13/2022 12:23:03 AM (No. 1332048)
Trump this , Trump that is useless propaganda.
Heads need to roll at RNC.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
SweetSweetback 11/13/2022 1:46:39 AM (No. 1332075)
The WOBBLY is very strong in this room. Count Trump out at your own peril.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
MissMann 11/13/2022 3:57:21 AM (No. 1332088)
Scott Adams was famous for predicting a Trump win in 2016, and the left came after him. So he lied and said he supported Hillary (this is in his book). Now the wokesters are threatening his livelihood. Of course he will say anything to get them off his back. He has a track record of lying to suit his purpose. Why would anyone believe anything he has to say anymore?
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
DCGIRL 11/13/2022 5:56:37 AM (No. 1332113)
We in Pennsylvania are still angry as h3ll about Trump endorsing Oz. Then he endorsed Doug Mastriano. Both have baggage. Doug had the worst ran campaign in history. As for Oz, he was a huge mistake. Trump has always had a HUGE PROBLEM chosing the right people for a job. If he decides to run, he will need DeSantis for sure as VP. Trump going after DeSantis is a BIG mistake. My advise to Trump is to shut up and work on the positive to fix this party and country.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Golden Goose 11/13/2022 7:29:24 AM (No. 1332155)
Pennsylvania has a huge problem choosing the right people, as do all swing states, due to F R A U D.
Trump spared us from Hillary, and nobody has worked harder to remove Dems/RINOs/Globalists from power. These comments he makes, however petty they may appear to be, are said for a reason. President Trump deserves our trust, because he's earned it. Stick with him now, and you'll be glad you did. And you'll help to save this magnificent nation from those who so greatly threaten it, while sparing yourself from some future embarrassment.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Sully 11/13/2022 9:51:15 AM (No. 1332296)
I don't belong to the Trump cult. I belong to the cult that knows free elections are over in this former Republic that is evolving into a Tech Oligarchy.
And unless DeSantis and Youngkin are in that cult with me They Won't Win the 2024. No matter what happens to Trump.
It is fruitless to "strategies" as though we still have elections. NObody. Is Viable.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
sterling431 11/14/2022 2:25:13 PM (No. 1333098)
What many here are doing is to hold Trump to a standard nobody could meet. For someone who has been impeached twice, and persecuted daily for going on 8 years now I think it is not too unreasonable to cut him a little slack. If not for the massive cheating documented by 2000 mules he would be President now and we not have had the extreme inflation, open borders, massive fentanyl flowing in, extreme crime and all the other calamities Biden had brought us. Trump was one of a kind President who actually put America first and not just mouthed it. Think polices, not temperatment.
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