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Will rising crime rates sink
the push for police reform?

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Posted By: NorthernDog, 6/5/2021 9:47:39 AM

In the aftermath of George Floyd’s murder in May 2020 and the worldwide protest movement it inspired, there were signs that comprehensive police reform was possible in the United States. The public expressed strong support, reform-minded lawmakers signaled major changes in big cities, and a bipartisan deal in Congress seemed possible. (Snip) Homicides increased somewhere between 25 percent and nearly 40 percent last year, the largest year-over-year jump on record. That trend has shown no sign of reversing in the first few months of 2021. Crime was one of the defining issues in American elections for decades, but a dramatic

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Reform should be weed out any bad cops and also stop treating criminals like they are angelic pillars of society. Most criminals are incorrigible, dangerous, and psychotic.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: RussZilla 6/5/2021 9:52:16 AM (No. 806504)
I couldn't get past the headline. These writers come from another planet than the one I live on.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: PChristopher 6/5/2021 9:54:28 AM (No. 806505)
#1...I didn't get past the first sentence. When I saw "George Floyd's murder", that was it for me.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: mean Gene 6/5/2021 9:59:28 AM (No. 806510)
Riffing off the title alone, look at Los Angeles. A gigantic rising crime rate and a parallel move to defund police and free criminals has led to an increase in permits for concealed carry of legally owned guns. Looks like the police are turning public safety over to the public.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 6/5/2021 10:02:32 AM (No. 806512)
The police are doing their jobs. What is needed is justice reform. Here in CA we used to have a 3 strikes law and crime rates were falling. Then the left changed 3 strikes to make it worthless so now all the predators are let back out on the streets each to create hundreds of more victims.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: ROLFNader 6/5/2021 10:11:16 AM (No. 806520)
Um, duh squared , dood.....
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Reply 6 - Posted by: J. Arthur Brown 6/5/2021 10:19:59 AM (No. 806526)
Since the rising crime rates are the actual consequence of "police reform," the answer is "Yes."
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Reply 7 - Posted by: JrSample 6/5/2021 10:21:52 AM (No. 806527)
When your ''protest'' movement picks as its' patron saint a dopehead career criminal it is not going to turn out well.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: G-Tom 6/5/2021 10:30:22 AM (No. 806537)
1...I didn't get past the first sentence. When I saw "George Floyd's murder", that was it for me. ME TOO!! Question: since the FIRST ME SAID YJE THUG DIED OF FENTANAL, WHY WASN'T HE FIRED FOR BEING SO WRONG???
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Reply 9 - Posted by: bigfatslob 6/5/2021 10:34:11 AM (No. 806542)
Police reforming? How about reforming a certain race of people causing most of the crimes. Police turning it over to the people to protect themselves so don't prosecute citizens who run over rioters in the streets or shoot them when attacked. Let me do my 'thing' too and go home to hear about it on the evening news. Like the rioters who are 'blowing off steam' to be equal let me blow off my kind of steam.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DVC 6/5/2021 10:37:00 AM (No. 806546)
George Floyd was NOT murdered. And regardless of how many times these liar say it, it will NEVER be a truth, it will just remain "an oft-repeated lie". And my answer to the question posed in the headline....Gee, I sure hope so.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Kutchk 6/5/2021 10:45:32 AM (No. 806556)
To Paraphrase; “If it weren’t for double-stupid the left would have no stupid at all.”
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Reply 12 - Posted by: columba 6/5/2021 10:46:37 AM (No. 806557)
The rising crime rate might have an effect in a nation that has not lost its mind and soul.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: hershey 6/5/2021 11:15:20 AM (No. 806588)
Mike's a yahoo.....
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Reply 14 - Posted by: FLCracker 6/5/2021 12:21:33 PM (No. 806660)
Yes.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: wjr 6/5/2021 2:23:50 PM (No. 806782)
"Police reform" should be continuous process where adjustments are made to better protect citizens and punish the barbarians that we have allowed to spring up in our society. When anyone can walk down the street in south side Chicago without care, then reform will have been achieved. Reform will have been achieved when teenage predators understand the force of the law of the land, fear it and are certain of the retribution contained in the law. Reform will have been achieved when the arrogant politicians understand that the use chaos for political gains yields to long stretches in SuperMax
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Reply 16 - Posted by: JrSample 6/5/2021 3:25:33 PM (No. 806833)
This poorly written article goes on-and-on about all these genius reforms for communities to prevent violence without using police, but he never bothers to explain exactly what they are or where they are working. Minneapolis? San Francisco? NYC? This is just as stupid as claiming that closing fire stations and disbanding the fire department will prevent fires.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Geoman 6/5/2021 7:43:46 PM (No. 806954)
Re: #16 - Your last sentence regarding fire departments reminds me of my first statistics class in grad school. The topic was " correlation does not equal causality." The scenario being used as a teaching moment was the true correlation between the number of firetrucks responding to a fire, and the degree of property damage and loss of life; hence, one may conclude that sending fewer fire trucks would reduce property damage and death. The simple solution of restricting the number of firetrucks dispatched a fire to limit deaths and property damage was only obvious to those mistaking data correlation to imply causality. Even to the math challenged, the example provided allowed understanding of the misuse of statistics involving a spurious correlation, one that has no relationship to causality. Multi alarm fires, like those involving a large refinery and fuel storage facility, are by their very nature, extremely likely to cause injuries, death and significant damage. Doing police work in minority communities is often as dangerous to the police as a refinery fire is to fire fighters. Having fewer or neutered police responders is not going to prevent death and property damage in violent minority communities or in middle-to-upper class communities being preyed upon by violent criminals "of color" or otherwise.
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