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Danger in the Pacific Northwest: What's
Worrying Geologists Most?

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Posted By: ladydawgfan, 6/23/2024 5:26:30 PM

Back in the mid-'80s, I was at Ft. Lewis, Washington (now Joint Base Lewis-McChord) for a training course in those Pacific Northwest rain forests and mountains. We had one weekend off, and since three of my buddies and I had obviously not already spent enough time "humping the boonies," as the saying goes, we decided on that Saturday to go hike nearby Mt. Rainier. Dominating the skyline in the south Seattle/Tacoma area, Mt. Rainier is a volcano, like the rather infamous Mt. St. Helens, although it was certainly inactive that fine, sunny Saturday. We didn't hike to the top, but we did make it up to the tree line,

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No one expected Mt. St. Helen's to blow her top either.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: SkyKing1222 6/23/2024 5:38:51 PM (No. 1742227)
FTA -“Mount Rainier keeps me up at night because it poses such a great threat to the surrounding communities. “ Says Jess Phoenix, a volcanologist and ambassador for the Union of Concerned Scientists. Must be nice to have a job that’s description is to worry about something that’s not going to happen and that you can do nothing about.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 6/23/2024 6:00:17 PM (No. 1742244)
Actually, OP, the basic "coming eruption" was well predicted for months and years. BUT the nature and ferocity of the eruption was not well understood. And in addition to the luhars (mud, ash, boulder and water slurry moving at 100 mph or more for many tens of miles) there can be pyroclastic flows of superheated dry ash flowing at hundreds of miles per hour and at hundreds of degrees temperature. These destroyed Pompeii and Herculaneaum. I lived in Naples, Italy for a few years, and the place is COVERED with volcanic sites, including on the other side of the hill that much of Naples is built on "behind" the city, if the front is the bay and Vesuvio across the bay. Lots of volcanoes, and many are just sleeping. Heck ALL of the entire Yellowstone Park country is inside a huge, ancient volcanic caldera....that's why all the cool geysers, paint pots, hot springs, etc. If IT blew again, the ash could be tens of feet thick across much of the nation. We are passengers on this rock, and need to be careful not to get smashed, burned, crunched or otherwise wiped out by one of the MANY natural events which periodically occur. It's a dangerous world, pay attention.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: chumley 6/23/2024 7:07:50 PM (No. 1742281)
Above all else, everyone remain in a state of panic. For people to be happy and comfortable in their lives is not good for either party. We must give them more to worry about, no matter how remote the possibility of it really happening.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: NorthernDog 6/23/2024 7:29:08 PM (No. 1742299)
I really don't know what area residents would do if Mt Rainier or Mt Hood started giving off signs of eruption. Some volcanos rumble and belch debris for years. Others, like Mt St Helens, spring back to life just a few months before a cataclysmic event.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Italiano 6/23/2024 7:29:21 PM (No. 1742300)
They evacuated Mt. St. Helens well in advance, except for old Harry Truman, who refused to leave and a few idiot Darwin Award winners who stayed to watch the spectacle. I wonder if the pieces of him are still coming down.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 6/23/2024 7:53:37 PM (No. 1742318)
Recall a documentary about the Krakatoa explosion. There was a ferry going back and forth to Krakatoa and it had dropped people off. It was a sightseeing attraction. When it started erupting the ferry turned around and rescued people on the island. It was halfway back (to Java?) when Krakatoa exploded. The ferry and the people on board survived. The captain had the presence of mind to put all the passengers and most of the crew in the cargo holds. The captain and a few crewmen stayed at the helm. They made sure to cover their skin. He turned into the tidal wave, so the ship did not capsize. They also got hit by a blast of superheated steam and ash estimated at 300mph. Their protective clothing saved their lives. There was also a missionary on Java (?) who documented his experience. Anyone caught at the shoreline died in the tidal wave. The superheated steam and ash traveled far inland killing anyone out in the open. Only people that survived got under cover in time.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 6/24/2024 1:20:47 PM (No. 1742731)
Re #6, Krakatoa was heard in England, IIRC.
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