Actually, It Was the U.S. Who Killed Iranian
President Raisi (Iran Says)
Red State,
by
Joe Cunningham
Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought,
5/21/2024 11:15:22 AM
It is with a heavy heart that we must report who Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi's real killer is: The United States of America.
At least, that's the implication from Iran, which needed a couple of days to get its story straight and blame "Western sanctions" on the poor quality of its helicopters, which led to Raisi's untimely demise. That talking point is now floating around, thanks to friendly media outlets willing to overlook (if not actually cheer on) Iran being a country run by very bad people.
“One of the culprits behind yesterday’s tragedy is the United States, because of its sanctions that bar Iran from procuring essential aviation parts,”
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Dreadnought 5/21/2024 11:16:50 AM (No. 1722093)
They're developing nuclear weapons. They can get the avionics.
Steam gages and glass instruments do the same thing. What they can't do is compensate for the pilot's inner ear during instrument meteorological conditions. That and thug passengers who probably made it clear to the crew they were going home *now*, so do your job and fly. All Kobe wanted to do was coach his daughter's game.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
MickTurn 5/21/2024 11:19:46 AM (No. 1722099)
No Iran, Arrogance and Hate Killed him. He was the most corrupt nasty person on the planet. Oh, Wait, ALL Dictators fit that bill. May they ALL take Helicopter rides in really BAD WEATHER!
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 5/21/2024 11:25:33 AM (No. 1722109)
A lie that only liars will believe. When it comes to corruption and tyranny, Iran ranks near the top. Honesty left the building long ago, and competence went with him. That's what killed Raisi. Seriously, the guy won't be missed. It's just a shame that all of Iran's filthy leadership weren't on board that helicopter when it went down.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Digiconver 5/21/2024 11:27:03 AM (No. 1722111)
Yeah, they should be careful with those old helicopters. Now who's the new guy?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
john56 5/21/2024 11:37:19 AM (No. 1722119)
As noted below, this ain't the first time the "VIP Passenger" said to the pilot, "We're going home. I don't care what you say about the weather."
Sometimes the most successful flight you have as a pilot is when you don't go.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Digiconver 5/21/2024 11:40:44 AM (No. 1722125)
#5 - We can all be thankful this pilot made the right choice.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
jalo1951 5/21/2024 11:44:06 AM (No. 1722129)
Sounds like a Koby Bryant accident. Fog, hills/mountains, shouldn't fly but did anyway. This scum will not be missed but they will have a clone ready to take his place.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
philsner 5/21/2024 11:57:14 AM (No. 1722139)
If your helicopter is broken down, take the bus
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
DVC 5/21/2024 11:59:03 AM (No. 1722143)
I'd a poor workman who blames his tools......
Like so many thousands of other pilots who used poor judgement by flying into fog in the mountains with a VFR (Visual Flight Rules) equipped aircraft and/or pilot - this is predictable. Ask Kobe Bryant.
In private aviation circles this is called "get home-itis" a fatal disease which is caused by a need to "get home" when the weather conditions are not safe for flying, given the equipment of the aircraft and/or the training of the pilot.
While I did comment that there had been no parts other than via quesitonable back channels from folks who'd feel at home in the cantina scene on Tattooine in Star Wars, it seems more like flying a perfectly functional aircraft into a big rock hiding in a cloud.
Either way - good riddance.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
paral04 5/21/2024 11:59:05 AM (No. 1722144)
If Iran wanted the parts they could get someone else to buy them. What nonsense. Anyway, if you don't want to get killed don't go flying over the mountains in the fog.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Hazymac 5/21/2024 11:59:47 AM (No. 1722146)
It was a DEI pilot. Of course, they crashed. And died. Bill Gates is chuffed. He wants you to die, too.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
DougTN 5/21/2024 12:02:13 PM (No. 1722149)
Like Democrats and Joe Biden it’s always someone else’s fault.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
MarkTwain 5/21/2024 12:08:03 PM (No. 1722163)
What? Iran couldn't get spare parts from the Taliban? We left billions in spare parts behind. I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
BeatleJeff 5/21/2024 12:10:43 PM (No. 1722168)
How dare they! After we offered our condolences and offered assistance and all that. Ingrates! (Sarcasm off).
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
padiva 5/21/2024 12:46:14 PM (No. 1722195)
Shoulda gone shopping for a new helicopter in Afghanistan.
Think back...should JFKjr have flown his plane in bad conditions at night?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
red1066 5/21/2024 12:58:41 PM (No. 1722204)
Well, to a certain extent that might be correct. It was an American made helicopter built fifty plus years ago.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Snow Possum 5/21/2024 1:05:51 PM (No. 1722213)
16,
A properly maintained helicopter that was first put into service 50 years ago will have been rebuilt many times over its life when it comes to the major components and inflight instruments if it is kept up to standards as per the FAA. Engines, transmissions, linkages, controls, rotors... all rebuilt or swapped out for new parts. Airframe... inspected for fatigue and stress fractures.
That is why the overwhelming number of aviation accidents are pilot error.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Birddog 5/21/2024 1:17:47 PM (No. 1722221)
It may have been terrorism...The other two Helos flying along with them made it, it may be the pilot, co-pilot or another passenger Alahuawkbard them into "Paradise" over political, religious, family, or "Clan" differences.
Originaly built in Ft worth starting in 1968, all manufacturing by Bell moved to Canada in 1986.
Numerous other nations had UH1/212 manufacture/assembly factories under license...Japan still builds them.
several Iran allies have fleets of them Including Turkey, Yemen and Lebanon.
Iran has been shipping Russia massive numbers of drones, cruise missiles etc that have long distance all weather navigation, and are even operated remotely. If their helos and planes do not have the same IFR,and communications capabilities..it is because THEY chose not to build or install it.
Might as well mention that "Climate Change" caused the wreck...after all it was foggy and snowing heavily...in MAY.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Dreadnought 5/21/2024 2:06:47 PM (No. 1722241)
Another alternative is "pilot choice." (Germanwings Flight 9525).
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Schnapps 5/21/2024 2:21:00 PM (No. 1722248)
If your helicopter parts are worn out, take a camel.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
BarryNo 5/21/2024 3:45:01 PM (No. 1722279)
My only comment is that Obama wouldn't have let Biden do that.
And if we were involved, it was way too late to do any good. Should have nailed the dog-fornicating S.O.B. before he earned the name "Butcher of Tehran". Should have nailed him back during the hostage crisis under Carter - and the Ayatollah, too.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
bighambone 5/21/2024 3:54:37 PM (No. 1722287)
The question is, could an F-35 with long range air to air missiles see through the fog and blow a helicopter out of the sky? If so what countries in that area of the world have F-35’s in their Air Forces who might want to blow those particular Iranian big wigs out of the sky? The answers to those questions might give you a clue.
Another issue to contemplate is the quality of the helicopter repair parts that the Iranians have been able to purchase on the international aircraft parts markets to install on their helicopters, if they have bought what amounts to junk, that might have a bearing on causing the helicopter to crash.
Then there is the question of flying a helicopter in dense fog into the side of a hill or mountain!
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Roscoelewis 5/21/2024 4:23:10 PM (No. 1722305)
Next time, ride the drone you have been selling Putin.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
formerNYer 5/21/2024 4:27:28 PM (No. 1722306)
Since there is an embargo on parts, next time walk, bike or taker a car. Or build you own helicopter.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Ashley Brenton 5/21/2024 5:36:14 PM (No. 1722332)
1. Are Russia and China sanctioning Iran? Last time I checked, they both make helicopters. And they sell them.
2. Spare parts have nothing to do with flying in thick fog and crashing into a mountain.
3. You could always alter the behavior of your State so as to get sanctions lifted.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
red1066 5/21/2024 5:42:13 PM (No. 1722335)
#17. My point exactly. Was the copter maintained properly. Did it have instrumentation to detect obstacles. It was foggy, and maybe the pilot just didn't see that mountain.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
coyote 5/21/2024 6:33:26 PM (No. 1722375)
On the other hand, sanctions has not prevented the maximum leaders from getting missile parts.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
udanja99 5/21/2024 7:03:42 PM (No. 1722388)
I wish it were true that we took that piece of vermin excrement out. Sadly, we don’t have leadership capable of doing it.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Historybuff 5/21/2024 7:07:22 PM (No. 1722391)
The mountain came to Mohammed
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
danu 5/21/2024 7:37:37 PM (No. 1722404)
here's how it happened...cassadee hychinson pushed orange man, grabbed the steering wheel of the helicopter, /s/
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
govlawyer 5/22/2024 7:03:57 AM (No. 1722584)
It was either us or the mountain the copter crashed into was a Mossad agent.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
FJB 5/22/2024 7:24:18 AM (No. 1722591)
It looks like Sweet Barry and Pedo better start loading up more pallets of tax-payer cash for their rag-head pals.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
MaMe2 5/22/2024 9:03:55 AM (No. 1722672)
Rest in pieces
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
crashnburn 5/22/2024 9:04:27 AM (No. 1722674)
Totally breaks my heart. NOT!
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Zigrid 5/22/2024 10:24:58 AM (No. 1722718)
I'm sure it was America's fault...as told by the White House Iranian buddies....who cares...God is on the job.....
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
anniebc 5/22/2024 1:17:23 PM (No. 1722834)
Whatever works, Iran.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Hazymac 5/22/2024 1:20:39 PM (No. 1722836)
Yesterday I reacquainted myself with a late 'Sixties song by the Scottish singer Donovan (Leitch), "There Is a Mountain." "First there is a mountain then there is no mountain then there is." LOL. Our Savior, in Whom the terrorist savages do not believe, could have told the mountain to go away, and it would have obeyed. But that didn't happen here. The mountain was very much there, immovable and stark, ready to be flown into. As Duke Wayne said, "Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid."
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Gazela 5/22/2024 7:17:40 PM (No. 1722990)
Would t’were so…
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