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Jack Smith Did It Again! Grand Jury Not
Told AboutClinton Socks Case or Presidential
Records Act

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Posted By: JoElla Bee, 6/14/2023 4:57:51 PM

On Tuesday before his arraignment by his political rival Joe Biden, President Trump posted on Truth Social this stunning remark: President Trump: THE GRAND JURY WAS NEVER TOLD ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT OR THE CLINTON SOCKS CASE, BOTH EXONERATING!(Snip) On Wednesday morning The Gateway Pundit spoke with two attorneys who gave us the same explanation. Jack Smith did not tell the Grand Jury about the Presidential Records Act or the Clinton Socks Case because he didn’t have to.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: volksford 6/14/2023 5:06:52 PM (No. 1491913)
The latest Trump scam ( they never end) I'm convinced they have a big nothing burger and they know it. Election interference from the Big Guy... just muck up the works Joe like you always do.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: john56 6/14/2023 5:37:53 PM (No. 1491931)
The question I have is why is Smith and the deep state taking the chance of trying this case in Florida, where Trump may actually have an outside chance of a fair trial rather AND some favorable judges if there are appeals than going into DC where a fair trial is actually a fairy tale for a conservative or Republican. I'd like to think that even a graduate of Famous Lawyers School could beat this rap, but with what passes for legal judgement now a days, I'm not sure.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: brownshoepogue 6/14/2023 5:40:41 PM (No. 1491934)
question: Given the corruption and politically motivated unlawful acts committed by members of both the DoJ and the FBI (and other agencies such as IRS etc) and perpetrated against Obama's and Biden's political enemies, at some point do these agencies meet some legal or international agency's criteria of being considered the political left's "Secret Police"? Since they work mostly or exclusive in plain cloths/under cover to mask their true identity, and having been party to various unlawful actions (lying to the FISA courts, pee pee dossier, redacting tapes/file transcripts of biden-burisam corruption, hunter's computer cover up, Obama's VP joe biden's unlawful handling of classified material in his garage, U of Del, etc, and on and on and on), isn't it time and prudent to view those agencies members complicit with unlawful politically motivated acts against biden's political opponents as the acts associated with what many Americans would consider as the PSP (Progressive's Secret Police)?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: msjena 6/14/2023 5:44:44 PM (No. 1491941)
Interaction, if any, between the Presidential Records Act, and the Espionage Act, will be a question for the US Supreme Court if Trump is convicted. The Espionage Act doesn't mention classified documents. It mentions documents relating to the national defense. The PRA appears to give the outgoing President the authority to designate documents relating to the national defense as secret for a period of time. If they are not designated secret, they can be viewed by anyone at the National Archives. If that is the case, then the only issue should be whether the National Archives should have the documents. And that is not a matter of criminal law. It is typically resolved by a negotiated settlement or, theoretically, by a civil lawsuit.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: msjena 6/14/2023 5:48:24 PM (No. 1491943)
#2, it is a matter of jurisdiction and convenience. Trump, most of the witnesses and all of the records are in Florida. There is really no basis for bringing a case in DC and a DC judge likely would have transferred the case to Florida.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: AnotherYank 6/14/2023 5:57:13 PM (No. 1491946)
There's no chance that Trump will be convicted in this Federal case in Florida. This is purely to cause him trouble through the political season. The Presidential Records Act is very clear on the matter, as well as the fact that any espionage must be damaging to have any validity.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Starboard_side 6/14/2023 7:07:04 PM (No. 1491979)
#4 has a very nice, succinct, summary. Good job!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: DVC 6/14/2023 7:22:04 PM (No. 1491999)
This "indictment" is totally fraudulent, and should be tossed by the first judge after a motion by the defense that reads the Presidential Records Act, and the case decision on the law. It is very, very clear that the President has (quoting from memory) "unfettered authority to dispose of any Presidential records in any manner." UNFETTERED......that is as clear as crystal. This "indictment" is pure fraud.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Harlowe 6/14/2023 7:38:50 PM (No. 1492017)
#2~ At the moment, precise memory has failed, however, when the news broke of President Trump’s indictment, a female attorney said the Department of Justice would have preferred the indictment and ensuing trial be held in Washington, D.C. but a crime is to be charged where the bulk of the conduct occurs, especially where, in this situation, alleged obstruction occurs. A subsequent opinion from a different attorney stated that the decision on venue is crucial because if the wrong decision that either gets a conviction or that conviction is reversed on appeal, or the defendant moves to dismiss the indictment on the basis of erroneous venue, you can’t start over.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: daisey 6/14/2023 8:52:01 PM (No. 1492039)
God, I detest that man. Is there anyone with integrity in this administration? That would be a resounding no.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: govlawyer 6/15/2023 6:38:53 AM (No. 1492147)
While Smith might be reprehensible to all of us, he is not required to present anything to the Grand Jury in the nature of a defense to them; a grand jury is an ex parte proceeding, meaning it's one sided and not adversarial. (I've presented dozens of cases to a grand jury, so I think I can safely say that Smith indicted his ham sandwich just as he wanted to).
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rumblehog 6/15/2023 7:07:33 AM (No. 1492169)
Depose Jack Smith and ask him if he was aware of those precedents prior to his calling the Grand Jury. Trump's Attorneys will have an opportunity of a lifetime to go down in the legal history books on this case. Such a miscarriage of justice it's not funny.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: msjena 6/15/2023 7:51:28 AM (No. 1492193)
The Trump indictment is trying to criminalize a civil statute--the Presidential Records Act. It is relying on a provision in the Espionage Act making it a crime not to give "national defense" documents to the person entitled to receive them. Who is that person? It can only be the National Archivist, pursuant to the Presidential Records Act. But the PRA does not say it is a crime not to give in to the the Archivist's demands for records. There is no way this case will not go all the way to the Supreme Court.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: janjan 6/15/2023 8:08:35 AM (No. 1492205)
Grand juries in general should be abolished. They are unconstitutional. Any prosecutor can lie and twist facts any way they want without due process. A first year law school student could get any easy indictment. The victims are then guilty until proven innocent.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 6/15/2023 8:34:37 AM (No. 1492239)
What they are doing to Trump is the biggest abuse of power in the history of our country. It can't be allowed to stand. Did anyone else think 'Clinton Socks Case' was about Socks the cat? Leave the poor cat out of this!
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Reply 16 - Posted by: gmholler 6/15/2023 8:37:21 AM (No. 1492242)
What is it the media doesn’t want us to see? The left apparently wants the public distracted with scandals concerning Trump that they’d ignore for others… Lynn.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Strike3 6/15/2023 8:55:50 AM (No. 1492259)
Anybody who isn't aware of Sandy Berger's socks or the Presidential Records Act is too uninformed to be on a jury. Clinton kept China updated, Barack Obama gave away more defense secrets than any president, mostly to Iran, and they are still running around loose instead of sitting in Leavenworth.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: MickTurn 6/15/2023 9:50:48 AM (No. 1492303)
Jackazz, it seems you have some real issues. Wait for it, you're GOING TO PRISON for filing False Charges and stacking indictment items, not to mention the FBLIE Illegal warrant and falsifying evidence.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Lonestar Jack 6/15/2023 10:06:47 AM (No. 1492320)
Part of his "ham sandwich" case.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 6/15/2023 10:54:46 AM (No. 1492376)
I agree about the abuse of Grand Juries. Remember Congressman Tom Delay? A hateful prosecutor in Texas went to a massive number of Grand Juries until he received an indictment. So time after time this unscrupulous persecutor went to a Grand Jury, before he got what he was after...destruction of an effective, Majority Leader Tom Delay in the House of Representatives! The Grand Jury can be an abuse of power in the wrong hands.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Zigrid 6/15/2023 11:07:38 AM (No. 1492392)
The desperate attempt to get President Trump is finally front and's more obvious that ever just how terrified they are about President Trump winning in 2024...even lying Ryan is at it and now WE know why he and rove and romney have convinced sanctimonious to make a run for the nomination....he's a fool...because WE see just how political he is and he has cut his chances of ever being the republican candidate....I really like the young man Vivek Ramaswamy...he's got a brain and loves this country....
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Muguy 6/15/2023 11:38:08 AM (No. 1492417)
The question is-- how long can they stretch THIS hoax out ?????? They MADE UP a dossier that was officially accepted for FISA warrants.. They attempted financially RUIN people in an attempt to GET TRUMP Adam Schiftless LEAKED made up charges to the media... They had TWO FAKE Impeachments with charges from disgruntled employees who could be fired if they were considered not to be doing their jobs They had former feebee Mueller stretch out things KNOWING they had nothing They had 'whitleblowers' who had nothing to protect the corrupt deal between Ukraine and the Vegetable who has to be protected AT ALL COSTS... They have protected Hitlery from ANYTHING illegal she did in all of this.... They have protected Hunter all the way, no matter how long they drag their feet This is a giant misstep trying to CREATE flimsy charges of mishandling prvileged information when there were others in a GARAGE at Biden's house... As Dan Bongino recently said: "ALL ROADS LEAD TO OBAMA"
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Reply 23 - Posted by: rfr46 6/15/2023 12:17:49 PM (No. 1492448)
No. 11 is absolutely correct. Smith did not HAVE TO present exculpatory information, but he SHOULD have in a case of this monumental nature. Either (1) he wants to cause maximum political damage to Trump and the Republican party or (2) he is a scalp hunter with no appreciation of the consequences of such an unprecedented attack on a former president and likely candidate for the presidency. Either way, Smith is on the dark side.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Namma 6/15/2023 12:45:23 PM (No. 1492468)
Bet the fact that the clintons sold top secrets (rocket ) to the stinkin chinese, for $15 million, was never mentioned either
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