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Ivy League University Ditches Standardized
Testing, Will Judge an Applicant's 'Background'
and 'Voice'

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Posted By: Imright, 3/5/2023 10:49:27 AM

If you’ve lost sleep over whether you’ll get into Columbia University due to your test scores, rest easy — those no longer matter. Online Wednesday, the school made a major announcement: It’s permanently dropping standardized testing requirements for undergraduates. Congradu-lations. People are complex; a single factor can’t define them: The holistic and contextual application review process for Columbia College and The Fu Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Science is rooted in the belief that students are dynamic, multi-faceted individuals

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Reply 1 - Posted by: planetgeo 3/5/2023 10:56:24 AM (No. 1417803)
Yeah, good luck selecting your next doctor based on his "background" and "voice." Also your bridge engineer. Plumber. Electrician...etc.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: itsonlyme 3/5/2023 10:56:56 AM (No. 1417804)
1 + 1 = 3. Is that your final answer? Yes.........Not only do you get a trophy for answering, we will teach you that 1 + 1 is equal to whatever you want it to be in light of your background. If you were never taught what 1 + 1 is equal to, you went to a "progressive" school. Congratulations, pick up another trophy!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: moebellini3 3/5/2023 11:39:00 AM (No. 1417830)
The school will be a wasteland within five years. Lets see if the alumni are as stupid as this article thinks they are. It's supposed to be an educational institution not a lab experiment for social change.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: AltaD 3/5/2023 12:06:05 PM (No. 1417851)
Makes sense from the school's point of view, with no standardized tests it's difficult to prove Asian and White applicants are being unjustly discriminated.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: downnout 3/5/2023 12:17:01 PM (No. 1417856)
My better half, an E.E., used to grouse about the engineering graduates, said they had no “feel” for mathematics.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: padiva 3/5/2023 12:45:14 PM (No. 1417871)
My grandfather earned his Master's degree at Columbia in 1915.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 3/5/2023 12:50:54 PM (No. 1417882)
More intentional racism....just can't figure out any kind of a test to exclude whites and asians except.....looking at them and saying "Oh, too white....you can't go here." Racism running rampant.....against whites and asians. It is still the most hateful, virulent kind of racism in a century.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 3/5/2023 12:51:58 PM (No. 1417885)
Columbia has already dropped to number 18, how far they drop now?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: chance_232 3/5/2023 1:08:34 PM (No. 1417903)
James Earl Jones, Morgan Freeman and Laurence Fishburne would be an absolute shoe-ins for a doctorate in any field they chose. As long as they talk to me before performing brain or open-heart surgery, I'm just peachy!!!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Penney 3/5/2023 2:00:24 PM (No. 1417934)
In other words, measuring merit is now to be out and qualification for specific jobs & duties is instead to be subjectively based on the eye of the beholder? How unfair and prejudicial is THAT, not to mention the inevitable result of such unqualified outcomes?! Life is best when merit counts in preparation for whatever the goal one chooses ahead, NOT favoritism. Those, 'is-ims ' always decieve, eh? America offers the freedom to seek & choose whatever one wants to to do and is capable of accomplishing. If that choice requires specific training & education, the university's goal is to provide exactly that preparation, ... not subjective prejudice & favoritism among students.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: edgar 3/5/2023 2:06:39 PM (No. 1417937)
Ivy League educations used to mean something. Just another example of lefties being in charge and turning what they touch into a POS.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 3/5/2023 2:30:24 PM (No. 1417964)
Columbia looks for experience in shoplifting, smashing and grabbing--- bonus points for carjacking--- and fluency in ebonics.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Zeek Wolfe 3/5/2023 2:54:28 PM (No. 1417981)
I worked hard when I was a university student and finally earned a BA. Back in the day, college graduates were unusual where I lived. College courses were difficult and requirements for graduation, daunting. Universities nowadays are turning out borderline illiterates, schooled only in worthless pursuits like 'gender studies' and similar offal.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: jalo1951 3/5/2023 3:25:32 PM (No. 1417995)
This is a shout out to blacks and other people of color. We do not believe that you are capable of higher level thinking so we have decided to shelve all questions that requires more than an 8th grade education. It is obvious that you cannot qualify so we shall sneak you in. Dumb down all education. But don't forget that now only does cream rise to the top so do turds. You must decide that you can make it in education or, OR, maybe you are just too stupid. Only you can prove anyone else wrong. So prove them wrong or embrace the fact that you really are dumb.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Northcross 3/5/2023 4:13:40 PM (No. 1418024)
This is pure genius on the part of Columbia. By ditching objective standards and relying only on nebulous subjective criteria, they will be fully immune from lawsuits by high achieving white and Asian students who have been stiffed in the admissions process.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Hazymac 3/5/2023 4:17:40 PM (No. 1418029)
Sometimes when I'm in the presence of individuals inclined to hate white Southerners--several examples of that at the college cafeteria during the early '70s--my voice has this strange tendency of morphing from correct sounding, "unaccented" American heartland English to something twangy with long vowels and maybe a hint of Appalachian moonshiner. (My unadorned voice is pure Middle Tennessean; it should be.) Then I'll drop in one of Mr. Buckley's sesquipedalian words, and the fellow looking down his nose at me doesn't know either the word, or what to think. It's fun shocking people who think they know about you. I wouldn't go to Columbia, anyway. It's in a bad part of town.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: bpl40 3/5/2023 5:46:30 PM (No. 1418071)
I would look for all those things the school is talking about AFTER looking at 1400+ SAT, AP scores and a solid GPA.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: JHHolliday 3/5/2023 7:57:14 PM (No. 1418151)
These colleges are simply trashing what little values that their degrees once held. If I were still in business, I wouldn’t hire someone with a degree from certain universities. I would rather hire a smart kid with a high school education than anyone with a degree from one of these “elite” schools and would not hire a black person under any circumstance. OK, call me a racist but a businessman has to exist in the real world. Be smart, be practical, or you go broke.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Strike3 3/5/2023 7:58:21 PM (No. 1418152)
I's wantin' a degree so's I kin sit behinda dess an' write stuff. I kin use da phone too.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Lawsy0 3/6/2023 1:09:25 AM (No. 1418251)
Exactly! Did you see that guy in the tux was wearing brown shoes? AND white socks. To heck with test scores because it has always come down to Style over Substance.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: mifla 3/6/2023 4:10:27 AM (No. 1418293)
Just admit that you think that minorities cannot cut it at your university.
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