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Why is COVID Natural Immunity Being Ignored?

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Posted By: Magnante, 9/17/2021 8:59:03 AM

Immunity, according to the CDC website, is “Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without being infected.” (snip) breakthrough infections, on the rise, challenge the definition of immunity as “being exposed without being infected.” This would explain the CDC’s recent decision to change the definition of vaccine from immunity to only protection. These immunology basics are taught in high school biology classes and if understandable to teenagers, they should be clear to the medical establishment and leaders of our national health institutions.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: felixcat 9/17/2021 9:03:45 AM (No. 917352)
Summer/Fall 2020 - seems so long ago and yet... I may have missed it as I didn't closely watch Trump's press briefings on COVID last year but when or why or who started this much for vaccinations as the "cure" to get this country back to normal? Does anyone recall when or why Trump started to explain why vaccinations were the key to retuning to normalcy? NIH, NIAID, CDC, etc never pushed for vaccines before when it was SARS, MERS, H1N1. COVID vaccines and CRT are destroying this country.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 9/17/2021 9:22:04 AM (No. 917378)
Big $$$ for Big Pharma in Covid. Profits and bottom line. Natural immunity gets in the way.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: jj1319 9/17/2021 9:34:54 AM (No. 917388)
Adam Carolla talks about this very subject today on his podcast. I'll include the link, part 1, start at 37:00. Language alert. https://adamcarolla.com/shane-gillis/
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Reply 4 - Posted by: PChristopher 9/17/2021 10:08:44 AM (No. 917421)
Why? Because there's no money in natural immunity....same reason there's no cure for cancer. Big bucks in treatments, though. Can you spell Big Pharma? Sure you can.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Citoyen 9/17/2021 10:20:59 AM (No. 917431)
#1, President Trump indeed was saying last year that the vaccines would end the pandemic. Fauci was saying the same thing. The development of the vaccines in such a short time is one of Trump’s proudest accomplishments. President Trump was right. The vaccines did end the pandemic. Unfortunately Biden stole the election. His administration’s incompetency is responsible for igniting the lunacy about the vaccines. I’ll go with Trump. The paranoid can go with Biden.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 9/17/2021 10:30:48 AM (No. 917439)
Millions have already caught COVID, half of the country has been vaccinated, but more people are catching the bug than ever before? That does not make sense. Where is natural immunity? It should be a big factor now. Most likely the numbers on COVID are a pack of lies. The Lady Chihuahua made an observation. Why do some bugs mutate where others do not? Small pox and polio apparently never mutated or they would be rampant in society. What's the difference?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: SkeezerMcGee 9/17/2021 10:36:48 AM (No. 917442)
We should ASAP statistically sample the durability of the now existing COVID antibodies of people who had the virus during the first few months of the pandemic. Why? Because the scientists are merely guessing and assuming. It's possible, if not more likely probable, that these individuals' antibodies remain fully protective against reinfection. Until these questions are answered NO individual who has had the COVID should be mandated to be vaccinated. Science does not know whether vaccinating such individuals is harmful or even dangerous to their health, and Fauci does not seem to care. Fanci's uncaring response was "That's a really good point."
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Reply 8 - Posted by: DVC 9/17/2021 11:28:38 AM (No. 917515)
FTA: "There are six coronaviruses known to infect humans, four causing a common cold and two causing severe pneumonia and “all of these coronaviruses trigger antibody and T cell responses in infected individuals.” This could explain why some individuals infected today had mild or no symptoms, based on immunity from previous similar infections in the past." Anyone who had a previous infection with one of these four kinds of coronavirus common colds would likely have pre-existing natural immunity to the Fauci-ChiCom virus. Both my wife and I have had two different pneumonia vaccinations, just a couple of years ago, and I wonder if these pneumonia vaccinations also provide a pre-existing vaccinated immunity which also protects against the Fauci-ChiCom virus. The three thousand people on the cruise ship Diamond Princess (Jan/Feb, 2020) who partied and freely mingled like people do on a cruise ship for two weeks after the first infected person boarded, constituted an inadvertent but very important Wuhan flu experiment. For two weeks, as the virus spread to the passengers and the crew/workers, no one was aware of the existence of the disease. We can be fairly confident that everyone aboard was exposed to the virus during that time. Many of them came down with the disease. Previous information that I had on Diamond Princess was from news reports, notoriously inaccurate. I located a technical report on the topic with more detailed information. Of those more than 3,700 people, ~80% did not get the disease. This is a very important fact. This great unintended experiment shows that in a large random sample group, 80% either had a pre-existing natural immunity to the virus, or somehow managed on that tight, closed environment, to avoid ever coming in contact with the virus. It seems unlikely that many people could have avoided having any contact with the virus, but I suppose it is possible. 81% did not get the virus, and it appears that a very large segment of this random sample apparently had a pre-existing natural immunity to this coronavirus. This important information is widely ignored. I will be searching for more technical papers reporting on this event. Since it happened in Japan and eastern Asia, it is harder for US sources to suppress this information. If you are interested in this paper, which is primarily interested in studying how the ship's air conditioning and ventilation system may have played a part in the spreading of the infection, here is the link. Note that this is an NIH site. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8046742/
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Lawsy0 9/17/2021 12:00:16 PM (No. 917549)
The good doctor Joondphr's statement that ''if understandable to teenagers, they should be clear to the medical establishment,'' should be added to canon law. Reading Dr. Falci aloud, it sounds like he is making the case for all this covid porn rhetoric to continue reductio ad absurdum. For sure, big pharma and owners of big tech are making out like bandits.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: stablemoney 9/17/2021 12:31:16 PM (No. 917593)
The left intends to control you forever with vaccine dependency. Only the unvaccinated are free, and must be eliminated.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: KatieJo 9/17/2021 2:13:40 PM (No. 917696)
The goal is to kill us.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Strike3 9/17/2021 2:46:03 PM (No. 917749)
#6, because nobody was stupid or evil enough to perform gain-of-function experimentation on polio and smallpox. In the case of COVID-19, China is evil enough and the US is stupid enough.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 9/17/2021 3:58:03 PM (No. 917826)
Because so many people have had it and they want to get out of the vax line. Deep state and big pharma don't want the news to get out that the vaccine protection wanes 40% a month; but natural immunity wanes just 5% a month. Natural immunity is also better at defending against the variants. But if everyone will just shut up and get the shot as ordered, these inconvenient truths can be concealed.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: udanja99 9/17/2021 4:20:21 PM (No. 917853)
In 2018 I spent a month in Australia which included about 10 days up in the Darwin (tropical) area of the country. I came home with a viral lung infection which took about 3 months to work its way completely out of my system. Now I’m wondering if that didn’t give me some sort of natural immunity. I got a sinus infection earlier this year - probably from being forced to wear the bacteria-filled Petri dish known as a mask. Antibiotics took care of that. Otherwise I’ve been healthy throughout this entire plandemic.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Faithfully 9/17/2021 5:07:01 PM (No. 917932)
Why? Have the populace dependent on boosters for a lifetime and the owners of Big Pharma make out like bandits.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: mifla 9/18/2021 5:49:52 AM (No. 918369)
It's all about the Benjamins, Brian.
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